A. It was Friday that I could not do anything with them. Q. Did you attempt on that day to eject those men? A. I did, but I concluded it was not going to be very healthy, and I gave it up. They would not get off, and made all sorts of threats. I did not know any of them that made the threats. They threatened that if there was any putting off, they would be the parties to do it, and I would be the one to go off. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Can you tell us any of the occurrences of the riot? A. I cannot, for I was just simply running on the train. I did not stop. The firing that took place at Twenty-eighth street occurred while I was out on a trip. They held me at Lawrenceville until it was all over and quiet, so that the track was clear when I came down. When I came in, there were not many there, but there was a big crowd there when I went out. I ran my train every trip except the last one, Saturday night. I went for information to the telegraph office, but could not get any, and I kept the train out there and did not make the last trip. Q. During all the excitement you were free to run in and out? A. Except a little detention waiting for the crowds to open. They would always get out of the road. Nothing was said to me by any person--by any employé, except this man Hice. He asked me once if I did not think I had better stop, and I told him I did not think I had, that I would go on as long as there was a track to run on, and make the trips, if I could. Q. Did you have any conversation with any of these men except Hice, or did you hear any of the strikers talking? A. Two or three railroad men--I do not know their names--went out on my train at three o'clock on Thursday afternoon; they were going out home. I asked them what the trouble was, but I got but little satisfaction out of them, no more than they were swearing at the double-headers; that was all I could hear. Q. They were not taking part in the riot? A. No; they said they were not going out, but they had nothing to do with the trouble. I think they went home, for I would see them still out down there when I went out. They were not in the crowds at all. * * * * * Frederick Fleck, _sworn with uplifted hand_: By Senator Reyburn: Q. Where do you reside? A. At Spring Hill, on the line of the Pennsylvania railroad. Q. What is your occupation? A. I am a locomotive engineer. Q. Were you so engaged during the riots in July? A. I was. Q. Can you give the committee any information upon the occurrences that came under your observation?