A. I don't know where he got his fire. When I noticed him first he was in the car. He had a bunch of shavings, and was in a sitting down position, and appeared to me to be kindling a fire. When the fire got kindled he jumped out. I saw him fifteen or twenty minutes afterwards. He was the only person I know of. Q. Did you speak to him? A. No. Q. Was anybody with him? A. I didn't notice anybody with him. Q. What was the result of the kindling of the fire? A. If there had been no other fire it would have burnt that car up; but there was fire all around. Q. Other cars were then on fire? A. Yes; burning at the same time. Q. What has become of Mr. Marshall? A. He is in prison--over the river. Q. At whose instigation was he arrested? A. I can't say that myself. Q. You were not present when the firing took place by the militia? A. No. Q. Did you see any other fires kindled? A. I don't believe I did. Q. Describe whether there were other fires going on then, and how they were kindled, and what the mob were doing, and describe all the circumstances that took place at that time? A. There appeared to me to be a gang of men. I don't know who they were--whether railroaders or not. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Did they seem to have any organized leaders, or were they directed by anybody? A. It appeared to me they had at that time. Q. Were they not running helter-skelter? A. They were ordering each other around. I can't say whether they had an organization or not. Q. Did it strike you that they had? A. It did, at that time. Q. That it was an organization? A. Yes. By Mr. Means: Q. An organization without a head--do you mean to say that? A. It appeared to me at that time that it was an organization, but I don't say it positively myself. Q. Was there any particular party to command it? A. Yes; it looked to me so. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. What did the crowd seem to be aiming at, at that time--was it the destruction of property? A. I can't say that. There was a great deal of destruction and thieving going on. Q. Pillage and plunder? A. Yes. Q. What was said by the rioters? A. I can't state. Q. Was this firing confined entirely to railroad property? A. It was at that time. Q. Was there any attempt made by any one, so far as you saw, to fire private property? A. No. Q. It seemed to be confined entirely to railroad property? A. Yes. Q. This man Marshall you spoke of, was entirely alone when you saw him fire the car? A. So far as I know. Q. Nobody seemed to be acting in concert with him? A. No. Q. Did this coke car stand entirely alone? A. It stood in a train. They kept running cars down, six or seven at a time, against each other. This came down with the rest of them. Q. Describe that. The firing of this car would communicate to others? A. Yes. Q. After the car was fired, was it put in motion? A. Not that I noticed. Q. When you speak of running cars down, where were they running them from?