Q. There was some complaint at the time? A. Some dissatisfaction. Q. Between the 1st of June and the 19th of July, was there any organization among the men, so far as you could learn, or any pre-arranged plan to strike? A. There was nothing positive. I understood that quite a number of the men were joining what was called the Trainmen's Union. Q. Did you know the object of the Trainmen's Union. A. Of my own knowledge I did not. I understood it was being organized for the purpose of organizing a strike. Q. Did you, as superintendent, have any communication with the men that you understood were joining the organization in relation to it? A. A short time before the strike, three or four of our men, I understood, were very active in it, and I think I suspended one or two temporarily, and talked to some others about it. My information just previous to the strike led me to suppose that our men were not going to stand by it, or were withdrawing--that they would not go into the strike. Q. Did you get that information from conversation with your men? A. Yes. Q. With what class of employés? A. Conductors and engineers. Q. What class seemed to be most dissatisfied with the reduction? A. Generally those of the lower grade of pay--such as brakemen; that class of men. Q. When did the first strike occur on your road? A. I think on Monday morning, the 23d, I believe. Q. What class of men struck first? A. I would qualify the other statement by stating that on Saturday, about ten o'clock, I got a message stating that the shop men had held a meeting and determined not to work any longer without the ten per cent. was restored. We went out and called the men together, and Mr. Shinn, our vice president, made a speech, and explained the situation to them, and they held a meeting and agreed to stand by the reduction and go to work again. That was the first difficulty we had. On Monday, I think was the first refusal, on the part of the train men, to perform service. Q. What was said and done to get the men to resume work?