Q. Do you know of an order, given by the mayor to his officers, to compel men to serve on the police force, during those troubles? A. I do not know of any order of that kind. I know of orders given by the mayor to summon all the men that had been dropped from the rolls, and to get them organized with the men we had, and go on duty. A number of them responded. That was on Sunday. Q. What do you mean by summoned? A. Just notified them. Q. Compelling them to serve? A. I did not understand it as compulsory at all. I did not think it was. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. It was simply a call for volunteers to go out? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you state to them anything about their pay--as to how they would be paid? A. I do not know as I stated anything to them probably the first day, but the understanding was after they got out there that Mr. Watt was responsible for the pay of these men. Q. The mayor did not make any call on the night police to go out there at all on Thursday? A. Not on Thursday. The night men were not there. By Senator Yutzy: Q. There was no effort made, that you know of, to get the night men out there? A. There was no apparent necessity at that time. The night force went on duty on Friday night, and they remained on duty in and around the city hall until the trouble was all over. By Senator Reyburn: Q. What do you mean by that? A. Going out in squads from the city hall wherever they were required to go. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Did they serve during the day on Friday? A. I do not recollect that they did. I cannot say that. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Did they serve during the day Saturday? A. I think they were on duty from Friday night until the trouble was all over. That is my impression. I cannot be positive, however. Q. The night force numbered one hundred and twenty? A. One hundred and sixteen men we had left for the whole city. Q. Were any of that number detailed to go to the depot or to that section of the city? A. On Thursday? Q. Yes; or on Friday or on Saturday? A. The men were on duty continually Friday, and on Saturday all the men were out. Q. Where? A. In the neighborhood of Twenty-eighth street, and along where the trouble was. Q. How many were at Twenty-eighth street on Saturday? A. I cannot say. Q. How many on Friday? A. That I cannot say. I suppose the chief would know. By Senator Reyburn: Q. You were on duty that day? A. I was on duty continuously from that time until the trouble was over. Q. When you talked with those men, what reason did they give you. You have said you talked with one? A. They assigned as a reason for striking that it was on account of the double-headers, slim pay, and so forth. That the men were starving, and all that kind of thing, and that now they proposed to reduce the force, and compel one crew to run two trains, and they did not propose to do it. Various reasons were assigned. Q. Did he express any intention to use violence?