A. The Pittsburgh troops. I was there Thursday night and Friday night and Saturday night until one o'clock. Q. At Twenty-eighth street, were the same men there all the time from Thursday until Saturday--until the firing of the troops? A. Yes; they were nearly about the same crowd. Of course, the crowd increased. On Friday night four or five thousand of them were there, but the crowd was orderly, and I never saw them molest anybody unless you wanted to do something--then they would drive you back. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Would it have been possible for the police to have made any arrests at that time? A. I went out and looked at the crowd. I looked over the crowd and I thought if there were any police there they could have arrested the whole of them. Q. Could a force of fifty good police have dispersed the mob? A. They could on Thursday afternoon, when the first double-header was stopped. I think only about from twenty to twenty-five men were interfering with that train at all. It was just this way: I stood and looked on, but I had nothing to do with it. It was daylight, and I was on at night. There were four police on each engine, and a road foreman was on an engine, and the engineers and firemen, but they didn't seem to pull her out. I didn't see anybody with anything in their hands, but was informed that there were parties with links and pins in their hands, ready to throw in case they did start. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Do you know of any engineers or firemen being driven off their engines when there were policemen with them on the train? A. I cannot say that I do. They got off, though. Q. Did the police get off too? A. They did, yes. Q. You didn't see them driven off? A. No, they hooted and hallooed a good bit. Q. They got off--no links were thrown and no assaults were made? A. Not when I was looking. Q. How many police were on the engines? A. Four on the first, and I think four on the second. Q. They got off on account of the threats? A. That is the only reason I would know for their getting off. * * * * * C. A. Fife, _sworn with uplifted hand_: By Mr. Lindsey: Q. You are the son of Sheriff Fife? A. Yes. Q. Were you in the sheriff's office on Thursday, the 19th of July? A. Yes. Q. Was there any call upon the sheriff during that day for assistance in putting down the disturbance at Twenty-eighth street? A. Not during that day, I do not think. Q. During the evening? A. I believe so, but I was not home. Q. You were not out with him? A. No. Q. Were you out with him on Friday? A. I was at Union depot on Friday. Q. Was there any disturbance there? A. No, sir. Q. Were you out on Saturday? A. Yes. Q. At what time? A. I was there when the militia went out, in the afternoon. Q. Were you a member of the sheriff's posse? A. Yes. Q. Tell us what occurred there? A. We walked into the crowd. The crowd would open for us to walk in, and then close around us.