A. I am doing nothing. At the time of this riot I was a police officer. My occupation is a brick-maker. Q. What office did you fill at the time of the trouble? A. I was what is called a roundsman here in this city--walking pretty much all over. I wore no uniform. I traveled into different places in the city. Q. Where were you on Thursday morning? A. I was at home in bed. Q. When did you first learn of the disturbance? A. About one o'clock in the afternoon. Q. What took place? A. I went to Twenty-eighth street where the disturbance was, and found detective McGovern there in charge of a posse of men. A great many railroaders were standing around, not doing anything. Along about three-forty o'clock, they made up a freight train to go out called a double-header--two engines attached to the train. Orders were given by somebody, I don't know who, that four policemen should go on each one of those locomotives. I was, myself, on one locomotive. The engine I was on, a reporter got on. He asked me if there was any danger, and I told him I thought there was, and he got off. They pulled out this train, I guess, about ten or twelve feet, and I didn't see anybody going to stop it. I thought they could very easily have taken it out at that time. I saw a man get on the track and throw his hands up, and with that they stopped, and the engineers and firemen jumped off. The police then on the engines insisted on going ahead. I did, for myself. The last man I saw getting off was a fireman. I said what are you getting off for, and he said he had got to do it. Q. Did they refuse to go on when you insisted? A. That man--he was a fireman or an engineer--I cannot tell which--he was doing both. Q. It was when that man threw himself in front of the train?