A. Generally at the engine. Q. At what points? A. Twenty-fifth and Twenty-sixth, and Seventeenth and Sixteenth streets. And from there I went with the fuel wagon. Q. Did you receive any assistance from the police? A. They were there, and doing all they could, but the police was small at that time. Q. Were you at the Union depot when it was set on fire? A. No. By Mr. Dewees: Q. Those goods--what became of them? A. They were turned over to the commissioners, I understood. Q. They were goods taken out the cars? A. Yes. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Why were those prisoners taken before Deputy Mayor Butler? A. I cannot answer that question. Q. Where did he sit? A. In the central station, where we usually held the mayor's court. Q. The mayor's office? A. It is the central station-house. Q. Where the mayor holds his court? A. Yes. Q. Where was Mayor McCarthy at that time? A. I cannot tell you that. Q. You say the police gave the fire department assistance and protection? A. I say they assisted, so far as I saw. * * * * * William J. Kennedy, _sworn with the uplifted hand_: By Mr. Lindsey: Q. What is your occupation? A. Foreman of engine company No. 3. Q. Did you occupy that position last July? A. Yes. Q. State what part you took in putting out the fire that occurred on the night of the 21st--Saturday night? A. It was eleven o'clock and twenty minutes when the alarm came first. We started out the house, but we were stopped at the grain elevator. But we got through that crowd, and got on to Penn street, when they began firing at us or at our horses. Q. How many shots were fired? A. I cannot tell that. It was just firing here and there along the street. Q. With pistols and guns? A. With all kinds of arms. Q. How long was that kept up? A. All night until daylight. Q. Go on and tell us what occurred? A. We turned on to Liberty street, and at Twenty-first and Liberty they hit me with something, and surrounded the horses. Then we turned on to Penn again, but they wouldn't let us move, so we went towards the river and tried to go down to get up further, but they were waiting there. They had some old muskets and carbines and other things, and if we just moved the horses they would come. We changed to different places from one block to another, but they wouldn't let us lay a line, and wouldn't let us throw any water except private property was in danger. We didn't throw any water until after the troops went out of the round-house in the morning. Q. Were you present when they went out of the round-house? A. Yes. Q. Were you at the round-house after they left? A. Yes. Q. Was it on fire? A. Yes. They had to come out. The fire got under them. Q. Under what part of the round-house?