A. I cannot tell you exactly, but it was very quick? Q. Half an hour? A. No; it was not ten minutes until we were throwing water. Q. Then the fire had made considerable progress in the round-house? A. Yes; and across the street in the lumber yards. Q. Do you know, of your own personal knowledge, that the fire department did call upon the mayor for protection? A. I cannot say. I saw the mayor there in a buggy. Q. He didn't offer you any protection? A. Not that I know of. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Do you think, with the fire department, you could have cut the fire and stopped it during Sunday, if you had had protection? A. I don't know whether we could have stopped it, it was on fire in too many different places; but I think we could have picked out twenty-five men and saved Union depot from burning. Q. Do you mean you could have prevented the mob from firing it? A. Yes. Q. With twenty-five policemen? A. With twenty-five good men of any kind. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Do you mean that it could have been stopped at that time and place? A. Yes. Q. And that you could have prevented the spreading of the fire? A. Yes; if I had had that number of determined men. Q. Did you see those parties who set Union depot on fire? A. No. Q. Was there no effort made when they set the sheds on fire to tear the sheds down and stop the fire? A. Not that I saw--not by the police, that I saw. We did all we could. We kept following up the fire. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Was there no effort made during the day, Sunday, to stop the progress of those men in setting fire to the cars and the depot? A. That I cannot say. Q. You were not present when the mayor made a speech to the crowd? A. No. * * * * * John M. Miller, _sworn with the uplifted hand_: By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Where do you reside? A. On Second avenue. Q. What was your connection with the fire department in July last? A. I was an engineer. Q. What time did you go to the scene of the fire? A. About twenty minutes after eleven o'clock. Q. Saturday night? A. Yes. Q. Were you interfered with by the crowd? A. We were fired at and told to go slow, you sons of bitches, all the way, but nobody struck us. I don't know whether they fired at us or not, but our foreman, I believe, was struck in the back. Q. Did they strike any of your horses? A. That I cannot tell. I was behind the engine. Q. Where did you commence work? A. We were off with the engine about a square from the fire, and commenced work first at Twenty-sixth street. I don't know where they had the hose placed. They told us not to throw on the railroad property, or they would cut our hose, and they tried to prevent me putting on my suction hose. We had to talk to them, and tell them we were not going to play on the railroad property before they would allow us to make any attachment at all. Q. How long did you remain at work playing on the fire?