A. I was engineer of company No. 2. Q. State when you arrived at the fire, and how long you remained there? A. Probably between twelve and one o'clock on Sunday morning. We could not go into service. We waited there on the street by the Independence engine-house. We stayed at the fire until after the troops came out of the round-house. Q. During the day--Sunday? A. Yes. Q. And Sunday night? A. Yes. Q. Until Monday morning? A. Yes. Q. Were you assisted by the police force at any time? A. Not that I know of. Q. Did you see any policemen about there? A. I cannot say that I did; but I did hear that at one place where we were working the mayor was around, but I did not see him. Q. Did you see Mayor McCarthy at any time? A. Not that I know of. Q. Was any attempt made during the entire day of Sunday to stop the men who were engaged in the burning? A. Not that I know of. * * * * * J. F. Rivers, _sworn with the uplifted hand_: By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Where do you reside? A. On Mulberry street, above Twenty-fifth. Q. What is your business? A. I had been a detective in the employ of the city of Pittsburgh previous to July 12. Q. What position did you hold at the time of the riot? A. I held no position; but I lived within three squares of the scene, and consequently had considerable interest in the riot. I was away from the city; but I came back on Friday evening. I heard that there was a strike among the railroad men, and, as I knew a great many of them, I was very much interested in their behalf. I went up to the upper round-house on Saturday morning, and there I saw a great many railroad men, and a good many outsiders, that I knew were attracted there for, probably, the same reason I was. They were very orderly, and I saw no trouble there. It did not look as though there was going to be any trouble. I came down to the city and saw the troops at Union depot towards noon, and went up to my home, and saw the troops up on the hill. I paid no more attention to it until towards evening, when I heard the troops had fired upon the crowd. Then I went up there. I was trying to find my two boys. The crowd was then gathering to the number of thousands, and the people were very much excited, and expressed themselves that the troops ought to be cleaned out, and all such language as that. I went away from there, and towards dark I went out towards Twenty-fifth street, and saw the troops had been moved from the Twenty-eighth street position to the round-house, or square-house. The carpenter shop is on one side of Twenty-sixth street, and the round-house and office of the assistant superintendent is on the left hand side opposite. The round-house is a little back of the office, and the outer circle of the round-house comes on the line of Liberty street, and there is a railroad track in front of it belonging to the Valley Railroad Company. The crowd was in front of there; the soldiers