Q. Was there an increase of duty or work placed upon the employés? A. That is a question of opinion altogether. The company for many years back--the officers have been trying all in their power to economically manage the road, loading the engines to their full capacity and making them up differently. There is hardly a year passes, but that some of the officers finds some way of more economically running the road. There was an order given to make up what we call double-headers between Pittsburgh and Derry. Since the road has been opened we have always run double-headed, and sometimes three engines ahead and one behind, between Altoona and Conemaugh. The object in running the double-headers to Derry was for the purpose of making the trains go through to Philadelphia without being divided; that is, it takes two engines to haul a train from Pittsburgh to Derry, whether two engines ahead or behind, or two separate trains; and to avoid the delay of running two separate trains to Derry, one ahead waiting for the other, we put two engines in front of the trains, when one engine cuts the train going to Conemaugh, and the one put behind goes down to Altoona, and goes through from there. Q. What was the date of that order? A. The order of running double-headers on all through trains was the morning of Thursday, but we had always run double-headers between Pittsburgh and Derry, perhaps from one half to two thirds. The order was to take effect on that Thursday, and was to make them all double-headers. Q. Did the men make any complaint about that order? A. They made no complaint. Q. To you or to any other officer of the road? A. Not that I am aware of. Up to that time we always considered the double-headers a question of economy. Q. Did that order require the discharge of any number of men, or did it not? A. It did. Q. By that order you could run your trains with a less number of men? A. We could run them with a less number of conductors and brakemen, but not of engineers and firemen. As many double-headers as we had would take off one single crew of conductors and brakemen each. Q. You heard no complaint about that order? A. Not that I am aware of; but the men were always complaining about something. Q. That was on Thursday. What was the first riotous occurrence showing that the men were dissatisfied after the issuing of that order? A. I had leave of absence on Thursday morning to go to Philadelphia. For a few days previous I had asked the men--asked the subordinate officers--as I always do when I see them, if there is any trouble. I was assured then that our men were more satisfied and loyal than they had been, and I was perfectly free in my mind in going away on Thursday morning. I left in the day express on the Thursday morning when the trouble began. Q. How far did you go before receiving intelligence of the trouble?