Q. Did you go up there where that crowd was Friday morning, to see, of your own knowledge, whether the trains could run through or not? A. On Friday morning we had a crowd at two points, Twenty-eighth street and at Torrens station. To both places I went. Q. How large a crowd was at Twenty-eighth street that morning--Friday morning? A. On Friday morning, to connect my story, I went up with General Pearson at Twenty-eighth street, and he talked to the crowd. I think the sheriff was along. Q. How large a crowd did you find there? A. I never was at Twenty-eighth street that evening. Q. On Friday morning? A. I have very little idea about the numbers of a crowd--it was a very large crowd. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Was your road-way blocked up? A. Yes. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Were any of your men among that crowd--your employés? A. As I said before, I never recognized, I would be safe in saying half a dozen of our men that I knew. Q. From Twenty-eighth street did you go out to Torrens? A. Yes. Q. How large a crowd was there? A. I would say six hundred or a thousand. There was a crowd. I have no idea what number a crowd is. Q. Did you find any of the railroad employés among that crowd? A. I found one man that I knew as an employé, but I cannot name him. He talked to me, that is the reason I remember him. Q. Were any of the switches turned, at that time, at Torrens? A. None, to my knowledge. Q. The track was clear at that time, so that the trains could have run through if they had allowed it? A. Not to my personal knowledge. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Who seemed to be directing the crowd. That is, the mob? A. There seemed to be an understanding, from the remarks made by the crowd, that they had sufficient force to prevent the trains going out. As for example: At Torrens a party told me it was bread or blood, and they could get any number of men to come up and prevent the running through of any train until the matter was arranged with them. Q. Was that man an employé of the road? A. He was, but I do not remember his name. Q. What position did he hold on the road? A. A train man. He may have been a flag man. I thought I knew his name, and came down to see a party arrested, but it was not the man. I have not seen him since. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Were those threats made by the crowd or by this one man? A. By a single man. Q. Were the threats made about preventing the running of the trains by employés or others? A. By outsiders. They could not get enough employés to stop the trains. By Mr. Dewees: Q. When you doubled up the trains, how many men did you relieve. That is, on the morning of the Thursday that this outbreak occurred? A. If there were ten single trains and I doubled up, I saved five conductors and five flagmen and ten brakemen. Q. What became of those men? A. They were suspended. Q. Was anything said to them, that they were suspended for a certain time, or were they just dropped?