Q. In other words, they attempted to do it without using force. Just by pressing back the crowd? A. Yes, sir. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Will you describe the crowd? Who composed it? A. The crowd immediately around Twenty-eighth street, on the track, were workingmen--mill men. The other men, from their appearance on the hillside, were citizens. A great many people that I knew. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Women and children? A. I saw no children, but some women. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Mixed in with the crowd? A. Yes, sir. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Close to the railroad? A. They were apparently urging on the men. Some women were on the railroad. Q. Encouraging the men? A. They were yelling, and in through the men. There were very few women that I saw. They were all laughing and jeering at the soldiers. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. How long did the militia stand fire from the mob? Stand those stones and clubs before they fired? A. Then the company moved up and got in the crowd, and there was a man in the crowd hallooed shoot, and two pistol shots and a great many stones followed, and then the soldiers commenced firing, and then there was shooting just that quick. Q. Was any order given for the soldiers to shoot? A. No. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Was it a scattering fire, or did it appear to be a volley? A. It was in every way and in every direction. By Mr. Dewees: Q. When those stones were fired, you were among the military? A. I was among the military, in the hollow square. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Proceed with the military movements?