McDonald first searched two men in the center of the main floor, about 10 rows from the front.[C4-637] He walked out of the row up the right center aisle.[C4-638] When he reached the row where the suspect was sitting, McDonald stopped abruptly and told the man to get on his feet.[C4-639] Oswald rose from his seat, bringing up both hands.[C4-640] As McDonald started to search Oswald’s waist for a gun, he heard him say, “Well, it’s all over now.”[C4-641] Oswald then struck McDonald between the eyes with his left fist; with his right hand he drew a gun from his waist.[C4-642] McDonald struck back with his right hand and grabbed the gun with his left hand.[C4-643] They both fell into the seats.[C4-644] Three other officers, moving toward the scuffle, grabbed Oswald from the front, rear and side.[C4-645] As McDonald fell into the seat with his left hand on the gun, he felt something graze across his hand and heard what sounded like the snap of the hammer.[C4-646] McDonald felt the pistol scratch his cheek as he wrenched it away from Oswald.[C4-647] Detective Bob K. Carroll, who was standing beside McDonald, seized the gun from him.[C4-648] The other officers who helped subdue Oswald corroborated McDonald in his testimony except that they did not hear Oswald say, “It’s all over now.” Deputy Sheriff Eddy R. Walthers recalled such a remark but he did not reach the scene of the struggle until Oswald had been knocked to the floor by McDonald and the others.[C4-649] Some of the officers saw Oswald strike McDonald with his fist.[C4-650] Most of them heard a click which they assumed to be a click of the hammer of the revolver.[C4-651] Testimony of a firearms expert before the Commission established that the hammer of the revolver never touched the shell in the chamber.[C4-652] Although the witnesses did not hear the sound of a misfire, they might have heard a snapping noise resulting from the police officer grabbing the cylinder of the revolver and pulling it away from Oswald while he was attempting to pull the trigger.[C4-653] (See app. X, p. 560.) Two patrons of the theatre and John Brewer testified regarding the arrest of Oswald, as did the various police officers who participated in the fight. George Jefferson Applin, Jr., confirmed that Oswald fought with four or five officers before he was handcuffed.[C4-654] He added that one officer grabbed the muzzle of a shotgun, drew back, and hit Oswald with the butt end of the gun in the back.[C4-655] No other theatre patron or officer has testified that Oswald was hit by a gun. Nor did Oswald ever complain that he was hit with a gun, or injured in the back. Deputy Sheriff Walthers brought a shotgun into the theatre but laid it on some seats before helping to subdue Oswald.[C4-656] Officer Ray Hawkins said that there was no one near Oswald who had a shotgun and he saw no one strike Oswald in the back with a rifle butt or the butt of a gun.[C4-657]