Three Depository employees shown in the picture taken by Dillard were on the fifth floor of the building when the shots were fired: James Jarman, Jr., age 34, a wrapper in the shipping department; Bonnie Ray Williams, age 20, a warehouseman temporarily assigned to laying a plywood floor on the sixth floor; and Harold Norman, age 26, an “order filler.” Norman and Jarman decided to watch the parade during the lunch hour from the fifth-floor windows.[C3-40] From the ground floor they took the west elevator, which operates with push-button controls, to the fifth floor.[C3-41] Meanwhile, Williams had gone up to the sixth floor where he had been working and ate his lunch on the south side of that floor. Since he saw no one around when he finished his lunch, he started down on the east elevator, looking for company. He left behind his paper lunch sack, chicken bones and an empty pop bottle.[C3-42] Williams went down to the fifth floor, where he joined Norman and Jarman at approximately 12:20 pm.[C3-43] Harold Norman was in the fifth-floor window in the southeast corner, directly under the window where witnesses saw the rifle. (See Commission Exhibit No. 485, p. 69.) He could see light through the ceiling cracks between the fifth and sixth floors.[C3-44] As the motorcade went by, Norman thought that the President was saluting with his right arm, [Illustration: COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 485 Positions occupied by Depository employees on fifth floor on November 22, 1963.] * * * and I can’t remember what the exact time was but I know I heard a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something, and then another shot and I believe Jarman or someone told me, he said, “I believe someone is shooting at the President,” and I think I made a statement “It is someone shooting at the President, and I believe it came from up above us.” Well, I couldn’t see at all during the time but I know I heard a third shot fired, and I could also hear something sounded like the shell hulls hitting the floor and the ejecting of the rifle * * *.[C3-45] Williams said that he “really did not pay any attention” to the first shot-- * * * because I did not know what was happening. The second shot, it sounded like it was right in the building, the second and third shot. And it sounded--it even shook the building, the side we were on. Cement fell on my head. Q. You say cement fell on your head? A. Cement, gravel, dirt, or something, from the old building, because it shook the windows and everything. Harold was sitting next to me, and he said it came right from over our head.[C3-46] Williams testified Norman said “I can even hear the shell being ejected from the gun hitting the floor.”[C3-47] When Jarman heard the first sound, he thought that it was either a backfire--