Manguino had listened to Boyce, also, from his office window and he was discomfited by it. He waited for Orren to return to his office. He needed advice on what to do with himself because he could not easily think on his own. Orren waited for Boyce to reach the wall where he stood and he had ordered his guards not to fire at him. He stood on the wall dressed in his chromium armour and impressive helmet and he stared at Boyce as he stood at the base of the wall in his own majestic armour and helmet. This was the first time that Orren actually had a good look at this man's battle garb. This time he was certain that he saw on his shoulders the black wing-like epaulettes bringing to mind the 'black feathers' line, in Jessuum's prophesy. "We had known from the beginning," said Orren. "that you were not to be trusted!" He looked at Boyce while he spoke and Boyce had a strange smirk on his face when he responded. "It only means your own downfall, and don't stay under the misconception that you will live to see the end of this day!" Orren laughed at Boyce, pointing at him, at the same instant. "Your threats will lead you to the same end as your Bestenese friend!" said the cardinal. "It is to our utmost disappointment that the ArchBishop didn't let us destroy you when we first suspected you!" Boyce shook his head in defiance. "My uncle Manguino has never been very intelligent, and you can cease that elitist way of talking because it doesn't become you!" There was silence for a moment while they exchanged hate-filled glares. Boyce took a deep breath and called Manguino out to fight. "Manguino!" he called then waited. "Uncle! -- Come and we will settle this war's outcome between ourselves!" There was no answer and Boyce looked at Orren, laughing menacingly at him. "He will not answer you!" Orren told Boyce. "He will not fight either, and why should he? He has hundreds of us to fight you for him!" "Then let me fight each of you until only he remains!" Boyce said provokingly. Orren shook his head at Boyce and tisked at him. "Don't you know about the laws of nature, son of Brook?" he tauntingly asked him. "The strong survive while the weak die!" " -- And my God's universal law says that 'good shall destroy evil' -- so shall I destroy you, and all those who follow you!" There was silence again, for a brief moment until Boyce yelled to Manguino again. "My uncle, ArchBishop! Coward of the world and Evil incarnate. Come and do battle with me, alone!" Once more there was no answer from within the cathedral. This time Orren was bothered by it. The people could not be allowed to see the ArchBishop as a coward. He looked down at Boyce then mentioned to some of his high cardinals to come nearer. Boyce raised his cross bow at Orren, and Orren's men did the same directed back at him. "I will see him, Boyce. We will speak again within the hour!"