1033. Is Laurenson here?-No. 1034. Why did he have to pay it for his brother?-Because I think the father was not able, and Andrew had just to pay it. 1035. Were both the Laurensons living with their father?-No, Andrew was not living with him; he was married, and had gone away. But Robert was living with his father; and Andrew paid the money for the brother, because his father could not. 1036. Has there been any other case?-Yes; Peter Henry paid liberty money for himself about three years ago. 1037. Was Laurenson's money paid back?-Yes. 1038. After he had asked it?-I don't know if he asked it, but I know that it was paid back. 1039. Was Henry's paid back?-I don't know. 1040. Did these cases all occur about the same year?-Yes, all about the same time. 1041. Is it the case that at time you had several bad fishing seasons?-Yes. 1042. And is it the case that at that time Messrs. Hay were largely in advance to the fishermen in Burra?-Yes; for some years they were largely in advance. 1043. Did they want to get the young men to go to the Faroe fishing in order to get their parents out of debt: did they assign that as a reason for charging liberty money?-Yes, sometimes they did. 1044. Did they tell you, or did you understand, that these fines were required in order to induce the young men to go to the Faroe fishing, and to pay off the debt due by their parents?-Yes, I understood that. 1045. Were you told that by Messrs. Hay at the time?-Yes. 1046. Are these the only cases in which such fines have been exacted, within your knowledge?-Yes. 1047. Have all the landholders since that time fished for Messrs. Hay, to your knowledge?-Yes; they have all fished for them at the home fishing. 1048. And at the Faroe fishing too?-There are very few of the landholders who go to the Faroe fishing. 1049. Are there many men in Burra who go to the Faroe fishing?- Yes, a considerable number. 1050. But these are the younger men?-Yes; generally they are. 1051. And they are not bound in any way?-No, are not now. 1052. Do they generally ship with the Messrs. Hay?-Some of them do, and some do not. It is not general thing with them to do so. 1053. They can do as they like?-Yes. 1054. Can your sons do as they like in that matter, and ship with any person they please?-Yes. 1055. Do they go to the Faroe fishing?-Yes. 1056. And you are not asked to pay liberty money for them now?-No. 1057. Is that because Messrs. Hay have ceased to require payment of liberty money?-Yes; they thought the thing was not legal, and they have given it up. 1058. Are your sons living in your house still?-One of them is, but the other one is married, and is away from me. 1059. And the one who is living with you goes to the Faroe fishing?-Yes. 1060. Have you ever cured fish for yourself?-No. 1061. Then you don't know from your own experience, [Page 22] whether you would have a larger profit if you did cure them on your own account?-No; not from my own experience.