Steel. I have known him, and been acquainted with him four or five years. Q. Who came there first, he or you? Steel. He was there first. Q. Was Lilliwhite ever a-smuggling with you before this time? Steel. Not as I know of. Q. Was he ever reputed a smuggler before this affair happened? Steel. Not as I know of. Q. Do you think when Lilliwhite went with you, that he knew what you were going about? Steel. I think he did; we talked openly of it; but I cannot swear he did. Q. Do not you know that Lilliwhite was asked only to take a ride with you, and that he did not know what you were going upon till you came to the Forest of Bere? Steel. I cannot say any such thing; he joined us at Rowland’s Castle. Q. You say the Hawkhurst gang joined you at the Forest of Bere, and had a little horse with them? Steel. Yes. Q. What arms were upon that little horse? Steel. I think there were seven long muskets on him. Q. Were the arms for you? Steel. We had arms before that; they were brought for their own use. Q. Had Lilliwhite any arms when holding the horses? Steel. I cannot say that he had. Q. Did you all put down your names on a piece of paper to go upon this affair? Steel. Each man’s name was put down by Edmund Richards. Q. Was Lilliwhite’s name put down? Steel. I cannot say it was. Cross-examined by Glover’s counsel. Q. Was Glover ever concerned in smuggling before this? Steel. No; I believe he never was before or since. Q. Did you ever hear he went with reluctancy, and against his will? Steel. As to that, I never heard he did; but I believe Richards forced him to it. This I know, Glover lived in Richards’ house, and I believe Richards was the occasion of his going with us.[17] Q. Who was your commander? Steel. There was nobody took the lead, one more than the other. The counsel for the King then called Robert Fogden, who being come into court, was sworn. Robert Fogden. I remember the time the tea was seized upon. I was at the consultation in Charlton Forest; there we concluded to go after the tea; there was a noted tree that stood in the forest, called the Center-tree. I do not know whether either of the prisoners were there. I was not at Rowland’s Castle; I was with others of the company, on a common just below, for we met at both places, and then met altogether at a place appointed in the Forest of Bere. Q. Were any of the prisoners at the house you was at? Fogden. No, not one. At the Forest of Bere there were, I believe, all the five prisoners. We met together at a lone place there; we stayed there till the Hawkhurst men came to us; then there were thirty of us in number. The prisoners Kingsmill and Fairall were with the Hawkhurst gang, and were part of that gang. Q. Were you all armed? Fogden. To the best of my knowledge we were all armed. Q. For what purpose did you meet there?