Could they tell her anything of the cliff dwellers? They certainly could. And John Clayton told her of the Hopi Indians, and their customs. People of peace they were; keepers of sheep, lovers of the heavens, and knew the mystery of the stars as no one else did. Their men honored their women, he said. And then he laughingly told her that the Hopi Indians were women suffragists. The Hopi women, he said, were given more rights than were the women of civilization. "What rights?" she asked. Then he described his visit to Hopi land, telling her of the superior place the Hopi woman occupies in the life of the Hopi people. The talk drifted to Indians in general, Esther Bright asking many questions, indicating on her part a deep and growing interest in these native lords of the valleys and mesas. Just as they were crossing a bridge over the river, they met Lord Kelwin on horseback. It was the first time they had met him since the race. John Harding had not seen fit to tell Kenneth or the Claytons of his experiences with the Irishman, as long as he himself was in camp to protect Esther Bright. John Clayton reined in his horses to greet Lord Kelwin. The Irishman spoke to them, but looked at Esther. After learning their destination and the probable time of their return, he lifted his cap and rode on. Esther Bright was annoyed. She could hardly have told why. "Lord Kelwin is a genial fellow," John Clayton remarked, turning to speak to Esther; but, observing the expression of her face, he asked in a surprised tone: "Don't you like Lord Kelwin, Miss Bright?" "No," she answered, quietly. Kenneth laughed. Then, turning around, he said in a bantering tone: "But he told me you had gone horseback riding with him, daily, while I was away." "He's mistaken, Kenneth," responded John Clayton. "Miss Bright went riding with him about three times." "Three times too many," said Kenneth, apparently teasing, but with an undertone of seriousness. Mrs. Clayton adroitly turned the conversation. "John, tell Miss Bright about your meeting General C." Then he told how the general came to Arizona, and of his wise dealings with the red men. He explained the reason for the great unrest of the Indians after the general withdrew. He told how he was summoned from the Department of the Platte in 1882, and of the capture of Geronimo and his band. "And Geronimo is supposed to be the father of our little Wathemah!" Esther exclaimed. "Some think so," he said. "I have my doubts. He looks as though he might be a mixture of Apache, Mexican and Spanish." "Whatever he is, he is an attractive child," she said. "How did you come to meet General C.?" "He and his troops marched through Gila. I entertained the officers at the ranch over night."