Q. It was understood that you had to swear falsely? A. _Because we could not do otherwise!_ So they came to me principally because I was his regular physician and they got Dr. Brancato-- Q. To come in after you went to Rochester? A. I do not know what Dr. Brancato said. Q. Do you know Maria Capellano; she is no relation to you? A. Who? Q. The trained nurse who said she treated him? A. No. Q. Do you know Gasparo Candido, the druggist on One Hundred and Forty-ninth Street, now at No. 23 New Bowery? A. No. Q. Did you ever have any conversation with Mrs. Morello? A. No--the only conversation I had with her was--"Please do that for the love of the children; try and help my husband." Q. Where did you have that conversation? A. She came to my house. Q. You fixed the whole thing up with the Terranova boys? A. With Nick. Q. What happened after you got through testifying? A. I rushed back to Rochester. Q. Have you heard from them since you have been indicted? A. My mother told the whole crowd that she would have nothing to do with them; didn't care what the consequences would be. She said: "You have ruined my son; the last good thing you have done for us." They said to her, "Don't worry, everything will be all right." She said: "I don't care how it goes; I don't want to see you any more." Q. Did you hear anything about the alibi that you were going to establish for Cecala? A. I heard something when I was in the lawyer's office. Q. Were you down in the lawyer's office at all? A. Twice. He said: "What is your testimony to be?" I told him, and he said all right. Q. The only lawyer you ever saw? A. Yes. Q. Terranova was the one who had all the conversation? A. Nick, yes. He did the telegraphing. Q. How did he sign the telegram? A. Terranova. Q. Did not sign Nicholas? A. No, I don't think he did. Q. He was down in Towns'[6] office? A. He was; he never left me a minute. Q. What conversation did you have with Ponticelli? A. Only that I got there before he did. I was introduced to him here. Q. By whom? A. I do not recall. Q. He is a friend of Morello's? A. I think he was; lived downtown; they were neighbors. Q. Did you not have a store up there? [Rochester.] A. No. I went away from New York with a druggist. Q. His name?