[86] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, March 30, 1885, p. 1,072 and following, Mr. Shaw-Lefevre, Postmaster General, 1883-84. [87] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, March 29, 1883, p. 995 and following. [88] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, June 26, 1882, p. 422, Dr. Cameron moves the resolution: "That the working of the Postal Telegraph Service, with a view to the realization of profit, involves a Tax upon the use of Telegrams; that any such Tax is inexpedient, and that the profits derived from the service is now such that the charges for Inland Telegrams should be reduced." [89] Ever since the nationalization of the telegraphs the newspaper press messages had been carried at special rates which did not cover operating expenses. [90] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, March 29, 1883, p. 1,018 and following. [91] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, June 26, 1882, p. 427. [92] _Treasury Minute_, June 14, 1883, _with Regard to Reduction of the Minimum charge for Post Office Telegrams_; and _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, April 24, 1884, p. 499, the Chancellor of the Exchequer; and April 24, p. 569, and August 7, p. 138, Mr. Fawcett, Postmaster General. [93] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, July 5, 1885, p. 1,825, Lord John Manners, Postmaster General. [94] _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, March 30, 1885, p. 1,072 and following. [95] The increase in salaries and wages in 1880-81 to 1884-85 was $1,100,000, and the increase in the cost of maintenance was $538,000. [96] Compare also _Hansard's Parliamentary Debates_, June 6, 1887, p. 1,180, Mr. Shaw-Lefevre. [97] See table on page 111. CHAPTER VIII THE STATE TELEGRAPHS SUBSIDIZE THE NEWSPAPER PRESS Why the newspaper press demanded nationalization. Mr. Scudamore gives the newspaper press a tariff which he deems unprofitable. Estimates of the loss involved in transmitting press messages, made by responsible persons in the period from 1876 to 1900. The State telegraphs subsidize betting on horse races. Before proceeding with the further discussion of the intervention of the House of Commons in the details of the administration of the State telegraphs, it is necessary to review briefly the tariff on messages for the newspaper press.