So thorough did these views accord with his that he determined at the first opportunity to meet Mr. Campbell and learn from him by personal interview more of the new order that he was advocating. During his visit to Kentucky in 1824, to which I have already referred, the opportunity presented itself. Mr. Campbell was to speak at Flemingsburg, and Smith rode twenty miles on horseback that he might see and hear him. He reached the town on the day that Mr. Campbell was to preach. Shortly after his arrival he met William Vaughn, a Baptist preacher, with whom he was well acquainted, when the following conversation took place: Vaughn—Brother John, have you met Bro. Campbell yet? Smith—No, sir, I have not. Have you seen him? Vaughn—Why, I have been with him for eight days and nights, through Mason and Bracken counties, and have heard him every day. Smith—Do, then, tell me what his views are on doctrinal points. Is he a Calvinist or an Arminian, or Arian, or a Trinitarian? Vaughn—I do not know. He has nothing to do with any of these things. Smith—Well, I can tell when I hear him just what he is. Vaughn—How? Smith—If a man of sense and takes a position, even though he should not run it out into any ism, I can do it for him, and tell exactly where he would land. But tell me, Bro. Vaughn, does he know anything about heartfelt religion? Vaughn—Lord bless you, he is one of the most pious, godly men that I was ever in company with in all my life. Smith—But do you think he knows anything about a Christian experience? Vaughn—Bless you, he knows everything. Come, I want to introduce you to him. Of this meeting with Mr. Campbell he afterward said: “I then felt as if I wanted to sit down and look at him for one hour, without hearing a word from any one. I wanted to scan him who had been so much talked of, and who had in _The Christian Baptist_ and in his debates introduced so many new thoughts.” But the hour appointed for the address had come, and they walked into the house together. Smith was determined now to ascertain the theory of religion to which he held, if, indeed, he held to any; for he was still full of doubt and suspicion.