'Then, Mrs. Malory, as it _is_ awkward to discuss these intimate matters with me, might I suggest that you should have an interview with Mrs. Brown-Smith herself? I assure you that you can trust her, and I happen to know that her view of the man about whom we are talking is exactly your own. More I could say as to her reasons and motives, but we entirely decline to touch on the past or to offer any opinion about the characters of our patients--the persons about whose engagements we are consulted. He might have murdered his grandmother or robbed a church, but my lips would be sealed.' 'Do you not think that Mrs. Brown-Smith would be very much surprised if I consulted her?' 'I know that she takes a sincere interest in Miss Malory, and that her advice would be excellent--though perhaps rather startling,' said Merton. 'I dislike it very much. The world has altered terribly since I was Matilda's age,' said Mrs. Malory; 'but I should never forgive myself if I neglected any precaution, and I shall take your advice. I shall consult Mrs. Brown-Smith.' Merton thus retreated from what even he regarded as a difficult and delicate affair. He fell back on his reserves; and Mrs. Brown-Smith later gave an account of what passed between herself and the representative of an earlier age: 'She first, when she had invited me to her dreary place, explained that we ought not, she feared, to lead others into temptation. "If you think that man, de la Lain's temptation is to drag my father's name, and my husband's, in the dust," I answered, "let me tell you that _I_ have a temptation also." '"Dear Mrs. Brown-Smith," she answered, "this is indeed honourable candour. Not for the world would I be the occasion--" 'I interrupted her, "_My_ temptation is to make him the laughing stock of his acquaintance, and, if he has the impudence to give me the opportunity, I _will_!" And then I told her, without names, of course, that story about this Vidame Potter and Violet Lebas.' 'I did _not_,' said Merton. 'But why Vidame Potter?' 'His father was a Mr. Potter; his grandfather married a Miss Lalain--I know all about it--and this creature has wormed out, or invented, some story of a Vidameship, or whatever it is, hereditary in the female line, and has taken the title. And this is the man who has had the impertinence to talk about _me_, a Ker of Graden.' 'But did not the story you speak of make her see that she must break off her daughter's engagement?' 'No. She was very much distressed, but said that her daughter Matilda would never believe it.' 'And so you are to go to Upwold?' 'Yes, it is a mournful place; I never did anything so good-natured. And, with the widow's knowledge, I am to do as I please till the girl's eyes are opened. I think it will need that stratagem we spoke of to open them.' 'You are sure that you will be in no danger from evil tongues?'