The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their worksFairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy
The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their works
Fairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy, Ancient
_Soph. Elen._ 5; 163 b 13. The same is true of syllogisms, as for
instance in the case of Melissos’ argument that the all is infinite; in
this he assumes that the all is not generated (for nothing is generated
from not-being), and that that which is generated, is generated from
a beginning. If then the all was not generated, it does not have a
beginning, so it is infinite. It is not necessary to assent to this, for
even if everything which is generated has a beginning, it does not follow
that if anything has a beginning it was generated, as a man with a fever
is warm, but one who is warm may not have a fever.
_Soph. Elen._ 6; 164 b 35. Or again, as Melissos assumes in his argument
that generation and having a beginning are the same thing, or that that
which is generated from equals has the same size. The two statements,
that what is generated has a beginning, and that what has a beginning is
generated, he deems equivalent, so that the generated and the limited
are both the same in that they each have a beginning. Because what is
generated has a beginning, he postulates that what has a beginning is
generated, as though both that which is generated and that which is
finite were the same in having a beginning.
(_c_) PASSAGES RELATING TO MELISSOS IN THE DOXOGRAPHISTS.
Epiph. _adv. Haer._ iii. 12; _Dox._ 590. Melissos of Samos, son of
Ithagenes, said that the all is one in kind, but that nothing is fixed in
its nature, for all things are potentially destructible.
Aet. _Plac._ i. 3; _Dox._ 285. Melissos of Miletos, son of Ithagenes,
became his companion, but he did not preserve in its purity the doctrine
that was transmitted to him. For he said in regard to the infinite that
the world of those things that appear is limited. i. 7; 303. Melissos and
Zeno say that the one is universal, and that it exists alone, eternal,
and unlimited. And this unity is necessity [_Heeren inserts here the
name_ Empedokles], and the material of which it consists is the four
elements, and the forms are love and strife. He calls the elements gods,
and the mixture of them the world. And the uniform will be resolved. He
thinks that souls are divine, and that pure men who share these things in
a pure way are divine. i. 24; 320. Melissos (et al.) deny generation and
destruction, because they think that the all is unmoved.
Aet. ii. 1; 327. Melissos (et al.): The universe is one. 328. The all is
infinite, but the world is limited. 4; 332. Melissos (et al.): The world
is not generated, not to be destroyed, eternal.
Aet. iv. 9; 396. Melissos (et al.): Sensations are deceptive.
IX.
_PYTHAGORAS AND THE PYTHAGOREANS._
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