Q. One of the witnesses was Charles B. Moore, the director of the Navy cosmic-ray project at Minneapolis, He’s considered a very reputable engineer. Did you know he confirms the first report—the one about the saucer 56 miles up, at a speed of eighteen thousand miles per hour. A. Yes, I knew about him. We think he was mistaken, like the others. Q. Mr. Moore says it was absolutely sure it was not hallucination. He says it should be carefully investigated. A. We did investigate. We just don’t believe they saw anything. Q. Could I see the complete file on that case? Also on Mantell, Gorman, and the Eastern Airlines cases? A. That’s out of my province. Q. If Project “Saucer” is ended, then all the files should be opened. A. Well, the summaries have been cleared, and you can see them. Q. No, I mean the actual files. Is there any reason I shouldn’t see them? A. There’d be a lot of material to search through. Each case has a separate book, and some of them are pretty bulky. Q. There were 722 cases in all, weren’t there? A. No, nowhere near that. Q. Then 375 is the total figure—I mean the number of cases Project “Saucer” listed? A. There were a few more—something over four hundred. I don’t know the exact figure. Q. I’ve been told that Project “Saucer” had the Air Force put out a special order for pilots to chase flying saucers. Is that right? A. Yes, that’s right. Q. Did that include National Guard pilots? A. Yes, it did. When the project first started checking on saucers we were naturally anxious to get hold of one of the things. We told the pilots to do practically anything in reason, even if they had to grab one by the tail. Q. Were any of those planes armed? A. Only if they happened to have guns for some other mission, like gunnery practice. Q. We’ve heard of one case where fighters chased a saucer to a high altitude. One of them emptied his guns at it. A. You must mean that New Jersey affair. The plane was armed for another reason. Q. No, I meant a case reported out at Luke Field. Three fighters took off, if the story sent us is correct. Apparently it made quite a commotion. That was back in 1945. A. It might have happened. I don’t know. Q. What was this New Jersey case? A. I’d rather not discuss any more cases without having the books here. Q. Has Project “Saucer” released its secret pictures? A. What pictures? There weren’t any that amounted to anything. Maybe half a dozen. They didn’t show anything, just spots on film or weather balloons at a distance. Q. In the Kenneth Arnold case, didn’t some forest rangers verify his report? A. Well, there were some people who claimed they saw the same disks. But we found out later they’d heard about it on the radio. Q. Didn’t they draw some sketches that matched Arnold’s? A. I never heard about it.