The Greville Memoirs, Part 2 (of 3), Volume 1 (of 3): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1837 to 1852Greville, Charles
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The Greville Memoirs, Part 2 (of 3), Volume 1 (of 3): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1837 to 1852
Greville, Charles
Great Britain -- History -- Victoria, 1837-1901
whole subject. He stated both sides of the case with great
precision, and in an admirable, though very artful speech, a
statement which, if elaborated into a Parliamentary speech and
completed as it would be in the House of Commons, was calculated
to produce the greatest effect. He delivered this, speaking for
about a quarter of an hour, and then threw himself back in his
chair, waiting for what anybody else would say. After some little
talk, Palmerston delivered his sentiments the other way, made a
violent philippic against France, talked of her weakness and want
of preparation, of the union of all the Powers of Europe against
her, said that Prussia had 200,000 men on the Rhine, and (as Lord
Holland said) exhibited all the violence of '93. Lord John was
then asked, since such were his opinions, what course he would
advise? He said he had formed his opinion as to what it would be
advisable to do, and he produced a slip of paper on which he had
written two or three things. The first was, that we should
immediately make a communication to the French Government,
expressing our thanks for the efforts France had made to induce
the Pasha to make concessions for the purpose of bringing about a
settlement; and next, to call together the Ministers of the other
Powers, and express to them our opinion that it would be
desirable to re-open negotiations for a settlement of the dispute
in consequence of the effects produced by the mediation of
France. There then ensued a good deal of talk (in which, however,
the Prime Minister took no part), Lord Minto espousing
Palmerston's side, and saying (which was true enough), that
though Lord Holland and Clarendon, who had all along opposed the
Treaty, might very consistently take this course, he did not see
how any of those could do so who had originally supported and
approved of it; to which Lord John quietly and briefly said, 'The
events at Alexandria have made all the difference.' This was in
fact no answer; and Minto was quite right, especially as Lord
John had taken his line before the events at Alexandria were
known. Of the Ministers present besides Minto, Macaulay seemed
rather disposed to go with Palmerston, and talked blusteringly
about France, as he probably thought a Secretary of War should.
Labouchere was first one way and then the other, and neither the
Chancellor nor the Chancellor of the Exchequer said one word. The
result was an agreement, that it would be disrespectful to Lord
Lansdowne, considering his position, to come to any resolution in
his absence; and as he could not arrive before this day, that the
discussion should be adjourned till Thursday (to-morrow) by which
time he and Morpeth would be here. They were all to dine with
Palmerston, and a queer dinner it must have been.
October 1st, 1840 {p.322}
[Page Head: LORD JOHN'S PACIFIC SENTIMENTS.]
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