But it has been stated I said I would put the Deity on half-pay. After first stating that I did not believe there was a Deity, is it likely I should say I would put him on half-pay? Would you put a servant on half-pay whom you never hired or had? All my expressions went to prove that I referred to the expenses of religion. I could not suppose that there is a being capable of governing the world, and consider him good and kind, and yet have any intention of bringing him into contempt. I had no personal reference to the Deity. I made use of that figure of speech because I thought they would understand it better, and they did understand it. I was saying we had many heavy burdens to pay to capitalists and others, and that I thought it hung like a millstone round us. Sir R. Peel said, when he introduced the income-tax, that the poor man could bear no more. I said there were twenty-four millions taken from us for the support of religion, and that they would do well to reduce that one-half. Suppose, gentlemen, that I did refer to the Deity, was my notion a dishonourable one? What man of you who had enough and to spare, and seeing the people around him in poverty, would not willingly relinquish part of his income to give them a bare subsistence? Who will deny that in England there are honest, industrious, hard-working men, honourable women, and beautiful children, who have not the means of obtaining food? Did I do him a disgrace if I thought he, who is called our Father, the Most High, would have dispensed with one-half of the lip-service he receives in order to give his creatures necessaries! [It being nearly four o'clock the Jury asked leave to retire, to which Mr. Holyoake consenting, they left the Court for a short time. Some ladies who represented themselves as wives of clergymen, came round the dock offering Mr. Holyoake confections and refreshment, and expressing their regret at the treatment he had received, and the position in which he was placed.] Mr. Holyoake, on resuming, said--According to a calculation that has never been disputed, the 'Pay to their Clergy. Catholics, numbering... 124,672,000... £6,106,000 Protestants „ ... 54,046,000... 11,906,000 Greek Church „ ... 41,000,000... 760,000 Total of Christians 219,718,000 £18,762,000 'Of which England, for twenty-one millions of people, pays more than one-half.'* Thus the English pay five times more according to their numbers--I proposed a reduction of only one-half. * 'Cheap Salvation.' By Henry Hetheringten. Mr. W. J. Fox has told us--'If the government of the country disposed of the mismanaged funds of the clergy, they would have sufficient for their annual needful expenditure.'