The journal of Elizabeth Lady Holland (1791-1811) Volume 2 (of 2)Holland, Elizabeth Vassall Fox, Lady
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The journal of Elizabeth Lady Holland (1791-1811) Volume 2 (of 2)
Holland, Elizabeth Vassall Fox, Lady
Holland, Elizabeth Vassall Fox, Lady, 1770-1845 -- Diaries
The debate on the Address went off very triumphantly for the Opposition
in the Lords, and, as far as the negative success of the failure of
Ministers in making an impression, did so in the Commons. Ld. Grenville
made a masterly speech in which he pressed strongly the atrocity of
the Copenhagen business, the impolicy of their conduct with regard to
the U. States, rather depreciated the prospect of the advantages of
the emigration of the Portuguese to _Brésil_, and touched lightly upon
peace. The novelty of the night was Ld. Kenyon,[314] who did not acquit
himself _formidably_. Some considered Mr. G. Ponsonby’s speech as a
complete failure, but more temperate judges say it was not so, and the
accident of not moving the Amendment arose from a misapprehension of
more protests than his alone. Mr. Canning appears to have assumed the
lead, and by an endeavour to appear dignified he was heavy and obscure,
instead of being, as formerly, pretty flippant. Perceval excelled him
much, but the fair ones allow there was not a good speech made in the
whole debate. Mr. C. professed that Governt. had laid down a rule,
which was to act directly contrary to what they found had been the
conduct of their predecessors, and hitherto they had not erred.
On Monday, the 1st of Feb., we moved to Pall Mall. I had been confined
many days with a smart inflammation in my eyes.
On Wednesday, 3rd Feb., a long debate in the Commons on Mr. Ponsonby’s
motion for further papers on the Danish Expedition.[315] Altho’ he had
spoken before, yet this was considered as a debut; his friends were
rather anxious, as his forte lies more in reply than in the opening
of a business. However, he acquitted himself well, and people seem to
be generally satisfied with him. He was answered by Mr. Canning in a
speech remarkable chiefly from its length, and the abundance of gross
untruths; he read extracts out of those very despatches he refused to
give to the House, and in one instance (a dispatch of Ld. Howick’s
to Mr. Garlike) read a sentence which, if he had read the context,
would have given a different colour to the whole matter. He was very
flippant and offensive, and showed neither more nor less ability than
usual. Mr. Mills[316] [_sic_], his _élève_, was quite extinguished;
it was the first occasion on which he had attempted to speak without
previously writing his speech, so he is completely given up by all and
laughed at by his own party. Ld. Palmerston’s maiden speech was not
attended either with the bad or good qualities of a young beginner; he
had practised in debating societies, and formed an unimpressive, bad
manner. Some of Opposition who are for the expedition yet voted upon
this question, but would not if it had been a vote against the Ministry
for that measure. Upon the whole the effect of the debate was rather
against Opposition.
Sick of, and indifferent to the measures of a hopeless Opposition, I
have omitted noticing any occurrence.
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