The journal of George Fox, vol. 2 of 2 : $b Being an historical account of his life, travels, sufferings, and Christian experiences.Fox, George
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The journal of George Fox, vol. 2 of 2 : $b Being an historical account of his life, travels, sufferings, and Christian experiences.
Fox, George
Fox, George, 1624-1691
G. F.
To James Hutchinson’s in Ireland came many great persons, desiring
to discourse with me about election and reprobation. I told them,
“though they judged our principle foolish, it was too high for them,
they could not with their wisdom comprehend it; therefore I would
discourse with them according to their capacities. You say (said I),
that God hath ordained the greatest part of men for hell, and that
they were ordained so before the world began; for which your proof
is in Jude. You say Esau was reprobated, and the Egyptians, and the
stock of Ham. But Christ saith to his disciples, ‘Go, teach _all_
nations,’ and ‘go into all nations and preach the gospel of life and
salvation.’ Now, if they were to go to _all_ nations, were they not
to go to Ham’s stock and Esau’s stock; did not Christ die for _all_?
then for the stock of Ham, of Esau, and the Egyptians. Doth not the
Scripture say, ‘God would have _all_ men to be saved?’ Mark, _all_
men, then the stock of Esau and of Ham also. Doth not God say,
‘Egypt, my people?’ and that he would have an altar in Egypt? Isa.
xix. Were there not many Christians formerly in Egypt? And doth not
history say, that the Bishop of Alexandria would formerly have been
Pope? And had not God a church in Babylon? I confess, ‘the word came
to Jacob, and the statutes of Israel; the like was not to other
nations.’ For the law of God was given to Israel; but the gospel was
to be preached to _all_ nations, and is to be preached. The gospel
of peace and glad tidings is to all nations, ‘he that believes, is
saved; but he that doth not believe, is condemned already;’ so the
condemnation comes through unbelief. And whereas Jude speaks of
some, that were of old ordained (or written of before) to
condemnation, he doth not say, before the world began; but, ‘written
of old,’ which may be referred to Moses’s writings, who wrote of
those whom Jude mentions, namely, Cain, Korah, Balaam, and the
angels that kept not their first estate. And such Christians as
followed them in their way, and apostatized from the first state of
Christianity, were and are ordained for condemnation by the light
and truth, which they are gone from. And though the apostle speaks
of God’s loving Jacob and hating Esau; yet he tells the believers,
‘we all were by nature children of wrath as well as others.’ This
includes the stock of Jacob, of which the apostle himself and all
believing Jews were. Thus both Jews and Gentiles were _all_
concluded under sin, and so under condemnation, that God might have
mercy upon all, through Jesus Christ. The election and choice stands
in Christ; and ‘he that believes, is saved; and he that believes
not, is condemned already.’ Jacob typifies the second birth, which
God loved; and both Jews and Gentiles must be born again, before
they can enter the kingdom of God. When you are born again, ye will
know election and reprobation; for the election stands in Christ,
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