The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Madison and M^r Gerry moved to insert "_declare_," striking out
"_make_" war; leaving to the Executive the power to repel sudden
attacks.
M^r Sherman thought it stood very well. The Executive sh^d be able to
repel and not to commence war. "Make" is better than "declare" the
latter narrowing the power too much.
M^r Gerry never expected to hear in a republic a motion to empower the
Executive alone to declare war.
M^r Elsworth. There is a material difference between the cases of making
_war_ and making _peace_. It sh^d be more easy to get out of war, than
into it. War also is a simple and overt declaration, peace attended with
intricate & secret negociations.
M^r Mason was ag^{st} giving the power of war to the Executive because
not safely to be trusted with it; or to the Senate, because not so
constructed as to be entitled to it. He was for clogging rather than
facilitating war; but for facilitating peace. He preferred "_declare_"
to "_make_."
On the motion to insert "_declare_"--in place of "_make_," it was agreed
to.
N.H. no. Mass, abs^t. Con^t no.[33] P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay.
V^a ay. N.C. ay. S.C. ay. Geo. ay.
[33] On the remark by M^r King that "_make_" war might be
understood to "conduct" it which was an Executive function.
M^r Elsworth gave up his objection, and the vote of Con. was
changed to _ay_.--Madison's Note.
M^r Pinkney's motion to strike out whole clause, disag^d to without call
of States.
M^r Butler moved to give the Legislature the power of peace, as they
were to have that of war.
M^r Gerry 2^{ds} him. 8 Senators may possibly exercise the power if
vested in that body, and 14 if all should be present; and may
consequently give up part of the U. States. The Senate are more liable
to be corrupted by an Enemy than the whole Legislature.
On the motion for adding "and peace" after "war,"
N.H. no. Mas. no. C^t no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no. V^a no.
N.C. no. S.C. no. Geo. no.
Adjourned.
SATURDAY AUGUST 18. IN CONVENTION
M^r Madison submitted, in order to be referred to the Committee of
detail the following powers as proper to be added to those of the
General Legislature:
"To dispose of the unappropriated lands of the U. States."
"To institute temporary Governments for new States arising
therein."
"To regulate affairs with the Indians as well within as without
the limits of the U. States."
"To exercise exclusively Legislative authority at the seat of
the General Government, and over a district around the same, not
exceeding ---- square miles; the Consent of the Legislature of
the State or States comprising the same, being first obtained."
"To grant charters of incorporation in cases where the public
good may require them, and the authority of a single State may
be incompetent"
"To secure to literary authors their copy rights for a limited
time."
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