The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Williamson suggested that the Legislature ought to have power to
provide for occasional successors, & moved that the last clause (of 2
sect. X art:) relating to a provisional successor to the President, be
postponed.
M^r Dickinson 2^{ded} the postponement, remarking that it was too vague.
What is the extent of the term "disability" and who is to be the judge
of it?
The postponement was agreed to nem: con:
Col: Mason & M^r Madison moved to add to the oath to be taken by the
supreme Executive "and will to the best of my judgment and power
preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the U. S."
M^r Wilson thought the general provision for oaths of office, in a
subsequent place, rendered the amendment unnecessary.--
On the question
N. H. ay. Mas. abs^t. C^t ay. P^a ay. Del. no. M^d ay. V^a ay.
N. C. abs^t. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
Art: XI. being taken up.
Doc^r Johnson suggested that the judicial power ought to extend to
equity as well as law--and moved to insert the words, "both in law and
equity" after the words "U. S." in the 1^{st} line of sect 1.
M^r Read objected to vesting these powers in the same Court.
On the question
N. H. ay. Mas. absent. C^t ay. N. J. abs^t. P. ay. Del. no.
M^d no. Virg^a ay. N. C. abs^t. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
On the question to agree to Sect. 1. art. XI. as amended
N. H. ay. Mas. abs^t. C^t ay. P^a ay. N. J. abs^t. Del. no.
M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. abs^t. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
M^r Dickinson moved as an amendment to sect. 2. art XI after the words
"good behavior" the words "provided that they may be removed by the
Executive on the application by the Senate and House of
Representatives."
M^r Gerry 2^{ded} the motion.
M^r Gov^r Morris thought it a contradiction in terms to say that the
Judges should hold their offices during good behavior, and yet be
removeable without a trial. Besides it was fundamentally wrong to
subject Judges to so arbitrary an authority.
M^r Sherman saw no contradiction or impropriety if this were made a part
of the Constitutional regulation of the Judiciary establishment. He
observed that a like provision was contained in the British Statutes.
M^r Rutlidge. If the Supreme Court is to judge between the U. S. and
particular States, this alone is an insuperable objection to the motion.
M^r Wilson considered such a provision in the British Government as less
dangerous than here, the House of Lords & House of Commons being less
likely to concur on the same occasions. Chief Justice Holt, he remarked,
had _successively_ offended by his independent conduct, both houses of
Parliament. Had this happened at the same time, he would have been
ousted. The Judges would be in a bad situation if made to depend on any
gust of faction which might prevail in the two branches of our Gov^t.
M^r Randolph opposed the motion as weakening too much the independence
of the Judges.
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