The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
It seemed to be an objection to the provision with some, that according
to the process established for chusing the Executive, there would be
difficulty in effecting it at other than the fixed periods; with others,
that the Legislature was restrained in the temporary appointment to
"_officers_" of the U. S.: They wished it to be at liberty to appoint
others than such.
On the Motion of M^r Randolph as amended, it passed in the affirmative.
N. H. divided. Mas. no. C^t no. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del. no.
M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. no. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
M^r Gerry moved "that in the election of President by the House of
Representatives, no State shall vote by less than three members, and
where that number may not be allotted to a State, it shall be made up by
its Senators; and a concurrence of a majority of all the States shall be
necessary to make such choice." Without some such provision five
individuals might possibly be competent to an election; these being a
majority of two thirds of the existing number of States; and two thirds
being a quorum for this business.
M^r Madison 2^{ded} the motion.
M^r Read observed that the States having but one member only in the
House of Rep^s would be in danger of having no vote at all in the
election: the sickness or absence either of the Representative or one of
the Senators would have that effect.
M^r Madison replied that, if one member of the House of Representatives
should be left capable of voting for the State, the states having one
Representative only would still be subject to that danger. He thought it
an evil that so small a number at any rate should be authorized to
elect. Corruption would be greatly facilitated by it. The mode itself
was liable to this further weighty objection that the representatives of
a _Minority_ of the people, might reverse the choice of a _majority_ of
the _States_ and of the _people_. He wished some cure for this
inconveniency might yet be provided.
M^r Gerry withdrew the first part of his motion; and on the, Question on
the 2^d part viz: "and a concurrence of a majority of all the States
shall be necessary to make such choice" to follow the words "a member or
members from two thirds of the States"--It was agreed to nem: con:
The section 2. (see Sep^r 4) requiring that the President should be a
natural-born Citizen &c., & have been resident for fourteen years, & be
thirty five years of age, was agreed to nem: con:
Section 3 (see Sep^r 4). "The vice President shall be ex-officio
President of the Senate"
M^r Gerry opposed this regulation. We might as well put the President
himself at the head of the Legislature. The close intimacy that must
subsist between the President & vice-president makes it absolutely
improper. He was ag^{st} having any vice President.
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