The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
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M^r Gov^r Morris moved to add to clause (3) of the report made on Sep^r
4. the words "and every member shall be on oath" which being agreed to,
and a question taken on the clause so amended viz--"The Senate of the U.
S. shall have power to try all impeachments; but no person shall be
convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present;
and every member shall be on oath"
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a no. Del.--ay. M^d ay.
V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
M^r Gerry repeated his motion above made on this day, in the form
following: "The Legislature shall have the sole right of establishing
offices not heretofore provided for" which was again negatived: Mas.
Con^t & Geo. only being ay.
M^r M^cHenry observed that the President had not yet been any where
authorized to convene the Senate, and moved to amend Art X. sect. 2. by
striking out the words "he may convene them (the Legislature) on
extraordinary occasions," & insert, "He may convene both or either of
the Houses on extraordinary occasions." This he added would also provide
for the case of the Senate being in Session, at the time of convening
the Legislature.
M^r Wilson said he should vote ag^{st} the motion, because it implied
that the senate might be in Session, when the Legislature was not, which
he thought improper.
On the question
N. H. ay. Mas. no. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a no. Del. ay. M^d ay.
V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. ay.
A Committee was then appointed by Ballot to revise the stile of and
arrange the articles which had been agreed to by the House. The
committee consisted of M^r Johnson, M^r Hamilton, M^r Gov^r Morris, M^r
Madison and M^r King.
M^r Williamson moved that, previous to this work of the Committee the
clause relating to the number of the House of Representatives sh^d be
reconsidered for the purpose of increasing the number.
M^r Madison 2^{ded} the Motion.
M^r Sherman opposed it he thought the provision on that subject amply
sufficient.
Col: Hamilton expressed himself with great earnestness and anxiety in
favor of the motion. He avowed himself a friend to a vigorous
Government, but would declare at the same time, that he held it
essential that the popular branch of it should be on a broad foundation.
He was Seriously of opinion that the House of Representatives was on so
narrow a scale as to be really dangerous, and to warrant a jealousy in
the people for their liberties. He remarked that the connection between
the President & Senate would tend to perpetuate him, by corrupt
influence. It was the more necessary on this account that a numerous
representation in the other branch of the Legislature should be
established.
On the motion of M^r Williamson to reconsider, it was negatived[64]
N. H. no. Mas. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay.
V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. no.
[64] This motion & vote are entered on the Printed journal of the
ensuing morning.--Madison's Note.
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