_Bishop._ You mean a gathered church: but we must have no gathered churches in England; and you will see it so. For there must be unity without divisions among us; and there can be no unity without uniformity. Well, then, we must send you to your church, that they may dispose of you, if you were ordained by them. _Wesley._ I have been informed by my cousin Pitfield and others, concerning your lordship, that you have a disposition opposed to morosity. However you may be prepossessed by some bitter enemies to my person, yet, there are others, who can and will give you another character of me. Mr Glisson hath done it; and Sir Francis Fulford desired me to present his service to you, and, being my hearer, is ready to acquaint you concerning me. _Bishop._ I asked Sir Francis Fulford whether the presentation to Whitchurch was his. Whose is it? He told me it was not his. _Wesley._ There was none presented to it these sixty years. Mr Walton lived there. At his departure, the people desired me to preach to them; and, when there was a way of settlement appointed, I was by the trustees appointed, and by the Triers approved. _Bishop._ They would approve any that would come to them, and close with them. I know they approved those who could not read twelve lines of English. _Wesley._ All that they did I know not; but I was examined touching gifts and graces. _Bishop._ I question not your gifts, Mr Wesley. I will do you any good I can; but you will not long be suffered to preach, unless you do it according to order. _Wesley._ I shall submit to any trial you shall please to make. I shall present your lordship with a confession of my faith, or take what other way you please to insist on. _Bishop._ No; we are not come to that yet. _Wesley._ I shall desire several things may be laid together, which I look on as justifying my preaching:—1. I was devoted to the service from my infancy. 2. I was educated thereto, at school and in the university. _Bishop._ What university were you of? _Wesley._ Oxon. _Bishop._ What house? _Wesley._ New Inn Hall. _Bishop._ What age are you? _Wesley._ Twenty-five. _Bishop._ No sure, you are not! _Wesley._ 3. As a son of the prophets, after I had taken my degrees, I preached in the country, being approved of by judicious, able Christians, ministers, and others. 4. It pleased God to seal my labour with success, in the apparent conversion of several souls. _Bishop._ Yea, that is, it may be, to your own way. _Wesley._ Yea to the power of godliness, from ignorance and profaneness. If it please your lordship, to lay down any evidences of godliness agreeing with the Scriptures, and if they be not found in those persons intended, I am content to be discharged from my ministry; I will stand or fall by the issue thereof. _Bishop._ You talk of the power of godliness such as you fancy.