As regards the memorandum, I understand that it is only to the Whips
for their information, and not for Mr. Gladstone. I think it may
safely be allowed to go on. I believe a number of the Whips would be
quite willing to sign it and to accept the compromise.
My meeting at Birmingham is on Wednesday. I will try and maintain a
conciliatory attitude, but the position becomes increasingly
difficult. I am bothered out of my life to attend Radical meetings
in different parts of the country. I have already received
invitations from Manchester, Rochdale, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Woolwich,
and other places.
I need not say that I do not want to start on a campaign unless it is
absolutely necessary.--Yours very truly,
J. CHAMBERLAIN.
_Mr. Labouchere to Mr. Chamberlain_
POPE'S VILLA, TWICKENHAM, April 19, 1886.
MY DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--I write you a line to catch the post. Herbert
Gladstone told me that he had talked with his {323} father on the
matter last Saturday. The difficulty of Mr. Gladstone seems to be
this: he has no great objection himself to the Irish Members sitting
here. But he does not like to consult his Cabinet, for fear of
resignations, and does not like to give a pledge without consulting
them. He considers that he has already said a good deal in his
speeches to show how open his mind is.
Now, would it not be possible for us all to vote for the Second
Reading, and to announce that we shall go for the Members sitting in
Committee? It is true that we risk being beaten. But, according to
the Whips--and so far as I can make it out they are correct--there is
a majority for the Bill on the Second Reading. In the main the
Members will vote for the principle of Home Rule on the Second
Reading, however opposed they may be to certain details. The
estimate is that this majority will be from fifteen to twenty. As a
rule, however, doubtfuls gravitate into the party fold, so it
possibly will be more. It cannot, however, be sufficiently large to
make the Government independent of us in Committee. We shall be the
masters of the situation, and Mr. Gladstone will completely bleed to
death instead of being murdered by us, for the odds are that the Bill
will never come out of Committee.
I venture, therefore, to think that, seeing the difficulties of Mr.
Gladstone giving any specific pledge, seeing the tone of Members, and
seeing the objections to going against the vast majority of Radicals
and with the Whigs, it would be well to rest satisfied, if Mr.
Gladstone will distinctly agree to leave the matter an open question.
I think that we can get a majority of Radicals both on the "Member"
question and on the "Order" question. The course I propose seems to
be the best practically.
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