10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, May 1, 1886.
MY DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--I have been doing my best to get some sort of
_modus vivendi_ in which the honours of war would be divided.
I had a letter from Morley yesterday in which he promised to be most
conciliatory at Glasgow. He said:
"I don't think there is a pin of difference between you and me as to
the desirableness of passing the Second Reading at almost any cost.
But Chamberlain wants us to go down on our knees, and this cannot be
done for the money."
He had previously suggested to me what he said, I see, at Glasgow
about the Irish Members coming back in three years. I replied that
this might possibly form a basis, but that it must in this case be
understood that they came back without any further legislature on the
subject. To this he demurred, but I think that he would not make
difficulties.
I do not dispute your figures, but I would point out to you that some
of your fifty can be manipulated. As a rule a big cave does not hold
together. Some of its Members in the end take refuge in voting for a
Party Bill, and give as a pretext some {331} phrase used by the
Minister for having done so, and in the G.O.M. you have a past master
in these sort of catching phrases.
I was brought up in diplomacy. When two countries send each other
their ultimatums, a third country desirous of peace proposes
something between the two, and peace is made upon its adoption by the
belligerents.
I have been suggesting that Mr. Gladstone should agree to leave the
question an open one, the word "open" being understood to signify
that the Whips do not tell, and that every one--Ministers
included--should be allowed to vote as they please. I don't well see
how the G.O.M. could go further. Although we may call it a detail,
the exclusion of Irish Members is really a fundamental principle in
the Bill, and were he absolutely to agree to change it, this would
be, as Morley says, going down on his knees to you who, whether right
or wrong, are the head centre of the Radical minority, and not of the
majority. Would you, yourself, eat humble pie to this extent?
Moreover, I think that, if he had to submit this proposal to his
Cabinet, there would be suspicions, and the Cabinet just now can
hardly stand another split.
I have never gathered that Mr. Gladstone himself is opposed to the
retention of the Irish. All that he says is, "The problem is a
difficult one: show me a good plan and I have no objection to adopt
it."
There is another way of meeting you, but I don't know whether Mr.
Gladstone would accept it. It is this. Leave matters as they now
are with respect to the Irish Members, by eliminating all clauses
excluding them. Their position would thus be left to future
legislation on the subject. They would in this case sit as they are,
and vote upon Imperial and English local issues until the entire
question is treated in a separate Bill.
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