I took these points: (1.) that he made a vote cover a general
recognition of the Bill; (2.) that he studiously limited all
"reconstruction" to a particular point; (3.) that he implied, and
almost stated that the Bill was to be introduced, and made no clear
offer to consider the whole subject of the details which were to give
effect to the principle of his domestic Legislature principle, and
did not say that he would consider any suggestions offered to him by
leading persons in the Liberal Party.
These are, in point of fact, your criticisms, not mine.
_He_ was astounded at any one not finding all this in his speech, but
I said that, surprising as this might be, no one friend or foe had
found anything of the kind.
It seems to me that the real object of all should be to tide over the
present conjunction, and to leave everything "without prejudice" for
this autumn Session. The public do not know the object of their
adoration as we do. He is still their fetish, and they regard any
doubt of his divine character as sacrilege.
I should have thought that Henry James' idea of not voting would have
suited both you and Hartington. It certainly is the most logical
outcome of the position. He says that the Bill is a mere declaration
of principle. You say that it may be more. He offers to withdraw
the Bill, after the principle has been ratified by a vote. You
cannot quite believe him in anything beyond that the Bill will be
withdrawn. This being so, if all of you were to agree to leave him
and his principle to find their level in the House of Commons--to say
that you are for a domestic legislature, and therefore cannot vote
for the Bill, but that you are not for more, and therefore that you
cannot vote for a Bill which may involve more. I think that this
would put you quite right with the Radicals, and leave you a free
hand, although it may {352} be doubtful whether the Whigs, who go
against principle and details, would be quite so wise to accept this
solution.
If, however, the Whigs do vote, and if you and your people abstain,
it is not quite certain that we should carry the Bill; in which case
the outcry would be against the abstainers, and they would be cursed
for precipitating a dissolution against the idol.
According to the Whips, Saunders has again got salvation. Half of
these people are like women, who are pleased to keep up the "I will"
and "I won't" as long as possible in order to be counted. Generally
this ends in "I will."
Akers Douglas told the Whips last night that the debate was not to
end before Thursday; they could not quite make out whether this was
official or not.--Yours truly,
H. LABOUCHERE.
_Mr. Labouchere to Mr. Chamberlain_
10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, June 5, 1886.
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