as she hung there, her feet about a foot or so above the ground; and he then take a box of matches out of his pocket and he light the dry leaves, and the old lady start to burn. Big bladders [blisters] I see on her skin up here' (he pointed to his thighs). "All was burned; she was calling out. Well, sir, when I see that, sir, I said, 'Lord, have mercy!' and I run ahead that I could not see her no more." "You did not go back?" "I stayed a little ways off to where she was. I could hear him speaking. He say to one of the boys, 'Loose her down now,' and they loose her but she was not dead. She lay on the ground--she was still calling out. He tell one of the Indians: 'Now, if this old woman is not able to walk, cut her head off,' and the Indian did so--he cut her head off." "You saw that?" "Yes, sir, he leave her there in the same place. We left her there, going a little ways into the forest; it was about four hours' walk; after we left the old woman we met two women. They had no house--they had run away. One had a child. Jiménez axed the one that had the child: 'Where is these Indians that has run away?' she tell him that she don't know where they were. He tell her after she tell him that she don't know that she was a liar." "Did he tell her this himself in her own language?" "He tell his wife to tell her. His wife speaks Spanish, too. His wife is up there with him now at Ultimo Retiro. He tell his wife that she was a liar. He took the child from the woman and he gave it to an Indian, one of the Indians who had been collected to work rubber. 'Cut this child's head off!' he say, and he did so." "How did the Indian cut the child's head off?" "He held it by the hair and chop its head off with a _machete_. It was a little child walking behind its mother." "Was it a boy or a girl?"