There were a lot of MP patches and some of them were wearing nightsticks off of these webbed utility belts. They had night sticks and they had .45’s in holsters, you know, the automatics, full holsters. And these were the people that were giving most of the orders. They had the road barricaded off out there and we sat there for a very long time and, you know, we were getting thirsty and everything and we asked if we could go back to Horse Springs to get some water. “Oh, no, no. You can’t through there.” And right after that, they said, “Now you just turn around and you head out of here now and you go to Socorro,” and this is the redhead again, “Keep your mouths shut. Just keep going and don’t look back.” Well, as we drove away, you know, dad, “The hell with it, we’ll go to Magdalena. We’ll get water in Magdalena.” You know, because that’s where John Trujillo lived, a relative of Ted’s. And so as we drove away, I was looking out the back window and I could see Dr. Buskirk and these kids and that guy, the guy in the pick-up was standing there and this Dr. Buskirk was doing just like this in this redheaded officer’s face and he kept pointing back behind him and I guess that meant, you know, we’ve got to go back that way and he was fed up with this guy or something and he was shaking his finger in his face when they were yelling at each other and that’s pretty much the last I saw of the whole situation. I don’t know what happened after that because we just kept going. (END) Transcript of Interview with W. Glenn Dennis[*] (Alleged firsthand witness to events at the Roswell AAF hospital) [*] W. Glenn Dennis, interview with Karl T. Pflock, November 2, 1992. Q: You started getting calls from the base mortuary officer is that right, some time in the afternoon on some day in July [1947]. A: Right after noon, yeah. Q: Do you recall, was that before the story appeared in the [Roswell Daily] Record? A: I don’t know. I’m sure it was. I can’t honestly say, but I don’t think the paper came out until the next day, I don’t think. I’m just assuming that. Q: I understand. When things like that happen to me way after the fact I try to remember, and I wasn’t sure if you had any recollection or not. It was the base mortuary officer who called you, not any of the MDs out there. A: No. Q: He was just, the mortuary officer was just the guy... A: We used to have a standing joke. What did you do that was so bad they made you the mortuary officer. Q: Exactly. A: He wasn’t a doctor or anything, but he was an officer and he was probably some old boy they was trying to figure out something to do with. We used to all have them come in, even the officer himself, say, “God, I didn’t know I screwed up that bad.” Q: Was this a guy you’d worked with before? Somebody you knew real well? A: No. Those guys come and go.