Mr. Edwards: Frankly, that is so, and I do not flinch from it; but I want to get it from the witness, inasmuch as he took it upon himself to give certain directions at a certain time, why he did not discharge his responsibility after in regard to other persons or passengers. Mr. Ismay: There were no more passengers who would have got into the boat. The boat was being actually lowered away. * * * * * Examined by Sir Robert Finlay for White Star Line: Mr. Finlay: Have you crossed very often to and from America? Mr. Ismay: Very often. Mr. Finlay: Have you ever, on any occasion, attempted to interfere with the navigation of the vessel on any of these occasions? Mr. Ismay: No. Mr. Finlay: When you left the deck just before getting into the collapsible boat, did you hear the officer calling out for more women? Mr. Ismay: I do not think I did; but I heard them calling for women very often. Mr. Edwards: When the last boat left the _Titanic_ you must have known that a number of passengers and crew were still on board? Mr. Ismay: I did. Mr. Edwards: And yet you did not see any on the deck? Mr. Ismay: No, I did not see any, and I could only assume that the other passengers had gone to the other end of the ship. * * * * * From an address (Br. Inq.) by Mr. A. Clement Edwards, M. P., Counsel for Dock Workers’ Union: What was Mr. Ismay’s duty? Coming to Mr. Ismay’s conduct, Mr. Edwards said it was clear that that gentleman had taken upon himself to assist in getting women and children into the boats. He had also admitted that when he left the _Titanic_ he knew she was doomed, that there were hundreds of people in the ship, that he didn’t know whether or not there were any women or children left, and that he did not even go to the other side of the Boat Deck to see whether there were any women and children waiting to go. Counsel submitted that a gentleman occupying the position of managing director of the company owning the _Titanic_, and who had taken upon himself the duty of assisting at the boats, had certain special and further duties beyond an ordinary passenger’s duties, and that he had no more right to save his life at the expense of any single person on board that ship than the captain would have had. He (Mr. Edwards) said emphatically that Mr. Ismay did not discharge his duty at that particular moment by taking a careless glance around the starboard side of the Boat Deck. He was one of the few persons who at the time had been placed in a position of positive knowledge that the vessel was doomed, and it was his clear duty, under the circumstances, to see that someone made a search for passengers in other places than in the immediate vicinity of the Boat Deck. Lord Mersey: Moral duty do you mean?