The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vol. 05 (of 12): Dresden Edition—DiscussionsIngersoll, Robert Green
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The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vol. 05 (of 12): Dresden Edition—Discussions
Ingersoll, Robert Green
Free thought
_Answer_. This is an exceedingly hard question.
If he had really tried to do it, of course he could
have done it. We must not think of limiting the
power of the infinite. But you must remember that
if he had succeeded in civilizing the Jews, if he had
educated them up to the plane of intellectual liberty,
and made them just and kind and merciful, like him-
self, they would not have crucified Christ, and you
can see at once the awful condition in which we
would all be to-day. No atonement could have
been made; and if no atonement had been made,
then, according to the Christian system, the whole
world would have been lost. We must admit that
there was no time in the history of the Jews from
Sinai to Jerusalem, that they would not have put a
man like Christ to death.
_Question_. So you think that, after all, it was not
God's intention that the Jews should become civilized?
_Answer_. We do not know. We can only say
that "God's ways are not our ways." It may be
that God took them in his special charge, for the
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purpose of keeping them bad enough to make the
necessary sacrifice. That may have been the divine
plan. In any event, it is safer to believe the explana-
tion that is the most unreasonable.
_Question_. Do you think that Christ knew the
Jews would crucify him?
_Answer_. Certainly.
_Question_. Do you think that when he chose
Judas he knew that he would betray him?
_Answer_. Certainly.
_Question_. Did he know when Judas went to the
chief priest and made the bargain for the delivery
of Christ?
_Answer_. Certainly.
_Question_. Why did he allow himself to be be-
trayed, if he knew the plot?
_Answer_. Infidelity is a very good doctrine to live
by, but you should read the last words of Paine and
Voltaire.
_Question_. If Christ knew that Judas would betray
him, why did he choose him?
_Answer_. Nothing can exceed the atrocities of the
French Revolution--when they carried a woman
through the streets and worshiped her as the goddess
of Reason.
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_Question_. Would not the mission of Christ have
been a failure had no one betrayed him?
_Answer_. Thomas Paine was a drunkard, and re-
canted on his death-bed, and died a blaspheming
infidel besides.
_Question_. Is it not clear that an atonement was
necessary; and is it not equally clear that the atone-
ment could not have been made unless somebody
had betrayed Christ; and unless the Jews had been
wicked and orthodox enough to crucify him?
_Answer_. Of course the atonement had to be
made. It was a part of the "divine plan" that Christ
should be betrayed, and that the Jews should be
wicked enough to kill him. Otherwise, the world
would have been lost.
_Question_. Suppose Judas had understood the
divine plan, what ought he to have done? Should
he have betrayed Christ, or let somebody else do it;
or should he have allowed the world to perish, in-
cluding his own soul?
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