The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vol. 08 (of 12): Dresden Edition—InterviewsIngersoll, Robert Green
Religion
The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vol. 08 (of 12): Dresden Edition—Interviews
Ingersoll, Robert Green
Free thought
_Question_. Do you agree with the Pope when he says that the result
of efforts which have been made to throw aside Christianity and
live without it can be seen in the present condition of society--
discontent, disorder, hatred and profound unhappiness?
_Answer_. Undoubtedly the people of Europe who wish to be free
are discontented. Undoubtedly these efforts to have something like
justice done will bring disorder. Those in power will hate those
who are endeavoring to drive them from their thrones. If the people
now, as formerly, would bear all burdens cheerfully placed upon
their shoulders by church and state--that is to say, if they were
so enslaved mentally that they would not even have sense enough to
complain, then there would be what the Pope might call "peace and
happiness"--that is to say, the peace of ignorance, and the happiness
of those who are expecting pay in another world for their agonies
endured in this.
Of course, the revolutionaries of Europe are not satisfied with
the Catholic religion; neither are they satisfied with the Protestant.
Both of these religions rest upon authority. Both discourage
reason. Both say "Let him that hath ears to hear, hear," but
neither say let him that hath brains to think, think.
Christianity has been thoroughly tried, and it is a failure. Nearly
every church has upheld slavery, not only of the body, but of the
mind. When Christian missionaries invade what they call a heathen
country, they are followed in a little while by merchants and
traders, and in a few days afterward by the army. The first real
work is to kill the heathen or steal their lands, or else reduce
them to something like slavery.
I have no confidence in the reformation of this world by churches.
Churches for the most part exist, not for this world, but for
another. They are founded upon the supernatural, and they say:
"Take no thought for the morrow; put your trust in your Heavenly
Father and he will take care of you." On the other hand, science
says: "You must take care of yourself, live for the world in which
you happen to be--if there is another, live for that when you get
there."
_Question_. What do you think of the plan to better the condition
of the workingmen, by committees headed by bishops of the Catholic
Church, in discussing their duties?
_Answer_. If the bishops wish to discuss with anybody about duties
they had better discuss with the employers, instead of the employed.
This discussion had better take place between the clergy and the
capitalist. There is no need of discussing this question with the
poor wretches who cannot earn more than enough to keep their souls
in their bodies. If the Catholic Church has so much power, and if
it represents God on earth, let it turn its attention to softening
the hearts of capitalists, and no longer waste its time in preaching
patience to the poor slaves who are now bearing the burdens of the
world.
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