The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. 9 (of 9): Being His Autobiography, Correspondence, Reports, Messages, Addresses, and Other Writings, Official and PrivateJefferson, Thomas
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The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. 9 (of 9): Being His Autobiography, Correspondence, Reports, Messages, Addresses, and Other Writings, Official and Private
Jefferson, Thomas
United States -- Politics and government -- 1775-1783; United States -- Politics and government -- 1783-1865
_Witnesses._--The practice is to swear the witnesses in open House, and
then examine them there: or a committee may be named, who shall examine
them in committee either on interrogatories agreed on in the House, or
such as the committee, in their discretion, shall demand.--_Seld. Jud._
120, 123.
_Jury._--In the case of Alice Pierce, 1 _R._ 2. a jury was empannelled
for her trial before a committee.--_Seld. Jud._ 123. But this was on
a complaint, not an impeachment by the Commons.--_Seld. Jud._ 163. It
must also have been for a misdemeanor only, as the Lords Spiritual
sat in the case, which they do on misdemeanors, but not in capital
cases.--_Seld. Jud._ 148. The judgment was a forfeiture of all her lands
and goods.--_Seld. Jud._ 188. This, Selden says, is the only jury he
finds recorded in Parliament for misdemeanors; but he makes no doubt
if the delinquent doth put himself on the trial of his country, a jury
ought to be empannelled: and he adds, that it is not so on impeachment
by the Commons; for they are in _oco proprio_, and here no jury ought to
be empannelled.--_Ib._ 124. The Lord Berkley, 6 _E._ 3, was arranged for
the murder of, _L._ 2, on an information on the part of the King, and
not on impeachment of the Commons; for then they had been _patria sua_.
He waived his peerage, and was tried by a jury of Gloucestershire and
Warwickshire.--_Ib._ 125. In one, 1 _H._ 7, the Common protest that they
are not to be considered as parties to any judgment given, or hereafter
to be given in Parliament.--_Ib._ 133. They have been generally, and
more justly considered, as is before stated, as the grand jury. For the
conceit of Selden is certainly not accurate, that they are the _patria
sua_ of the accused, and that the Lords do only judge, but not try. It
is undeniable that they do try. For they examine witnesses as to the
facts, and acquit or condemn according to their own belief of them. And
Lord Hale says, "the Peers are judges of law as well as of fact."--2
_Hale_, _P. C._ 275. Consequently of fact as well as of law.
_Presence of Commons._--The Commons are to be present at the examination
of witnesses.--_Seld. Jud._ 124. Indeed, they are to attend throughout,
either as a committee of the whole House; or otherwise, at discretion,
appoint managers to conduct the proofs.--_Rushw. Tr. of Straff._ 37;
_Com. journ._ 4 Feb. 1709, 10; 2 _Wood._ 614. And judgment is not to
be given till they demand it.--_Seld. Jud._ 124. But they are not to be
present on impeachment when the Lords consider of the answer or proofs,
and determine of their judgment. Their presence, however, is necessary
at the answer and judgment in cases capital.--_Ib._ 58, 159; as well as
not capital, 162. The Lords debate the judgment among themselves. Then
the vote is first taken on the question of guilty or not guilty; and if
they convict, the question, or particular sentence, is out of that which
seemeth to be most generally agreed on.--_Seld. Jud._ 167; 2 _Wood._ 612.
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