20. Anything having a form and figure and its parts and members, is of course perishable in its nature; and the position (of Jaimini), that there was another kind of world before, is likewise untenable (since there could be nothing at any time, without its definite form and parts). 21. If you say (in the manner of the chárvákas), that the world was never destroyed; and that the understanding is produced of itself in the body, in the same manner as the spirit is generated in the fermented liquor. 22. This position of yours is inconsistent with the doctrines, of the puránas and histories as well as those of the vedas, smritis and other sástras, which invariably maintain destructibility of material things. 23. Should you, O intelligent Ráma, deny with the chárvákas the indefeasibility of these sástras; say what faith can be relied on those heretical teachings, which are as false as the offspring of a barren woman. 24. These heretical doctrines are not favoured by the wise, owing to their pernicious tendencies; there are many discrepancies in them, as you shall have it, from the few that I am going to point out to you. 25. If you say the human spirit to liken the spirit of liquors, (which is generated in and destroyed with the liquor); then tell me what makes the destroyed or departed spirit of a deceased person, who is dead in a foreign country, revisit his friends at home in the shape and form of a fiend (pisácha). 26. To this it is answered, that the apparition which thus appears to view is a false appearance only; granting it as such, why not own our appearances to be equally false also? 27. It being so, how can you believe the bodies, that the departed souls of men are said in the sástras, to assume in the next world, to be true also? (Any more than their being mere apparitions only). 28. There is no truth in the proof of a ghost (pisácha), as there is in that of the spirit in liquor; hence if the supposition of the former is untrue, what faith is there in future body in the next world? 29. If the existence of spirits be granted, from the common belief of mankind in them; then why should not the doctrine of a future state of the dead, be received as true upon the testimony of the sástras? 30. If the prepossession of a person’s being possessed on a sudden by an evil spirit, be any ground of his reliance in it, why then should he not rest his belief in his future state, wherein he is confirmed by the dogmas of the sástras? 31. Whatever a man thinks or knows in himself, he supposes the same as true at all times; and whether his persuasion be right or wrong, he knows it correct to the best of his belief. 32. A man knowing well, that the dead are to live again in another world, relies himself fully upon that hope; and does not care to know, whether he shall have a real body there or not.