Tuesday, sent for by the magistrates to the Stadthouse;--from their
manner, judged Brodie’s delivery as predetermined;--Mr Duncan sent for.
MR. DUNCAN’S ACCOUNT TO THE MAGISTRATES.
That he was not a native of Edinburgh, but of Aberdeen; that he
frequently came to Edinburgh on business; and that eight ten, or twelve
years ago, he could not say which, the man who now called himself John
Dixon was pointed out to him as Deacon Brodie, having asked a gentleman
who he was.
That he had seen him several times after, and always understood him to
be Deacon Brodie, but did not know his Christian name; had no doubt, and
verily believed he was the same man; but would not swear he had no doubt
and verily believed him to be the same.
BRODIE ORDERED TO BE BROUGHT IN.
SUBSTANCE OF EXAMINATION.
_Q._ What is your name?
_A._ John Dixon.
_Q._ That is the name you go by here--but is not your real name William
Brodie?
_A._ My Lords, I stand here and claim the protection of the laws of this
country, which require two witnesses, on oath, to prove me William
Brodie.
You shall have the protection of the laws of this country, but they do
not require two oaths to identify you; it requires that the magistrates
shall be satisfied you are the same man.
Mr. Groves--I beg leave he may be asked, if he is not a native of
Edinburgh?
Question put--the answer, I have been at Edinburgh.
Mr Groves--Is he a Deacon of Edinburgh?
_A._ I claim the protection of the laws.
Mr Groves--Does he know Mr William Walker, Attorney at law, of the
Adelphi, London?
_A._ I know such a man.
Mr Groves--Then that William Walker procured the escape of this William
Brodie from London, which I can prove by extracts of letters now in my
pocket, the originals of which are here in the hands of your officers. I
can swear to Mr Walker’s writing.
Prisoner ordered to withdraw.
Here the Magistrates asked me if I was ready to swear that, from the
pointed description of him and all said circumstances, he was, to the
best of my belief, the man required to be given up?--I told them I was.
Mr Duncan was then asked if, from what he knew and what he had heard, he
would swear he had no doubt, and believed him to be the man.
Mr Duncan’s reply.--I am only a visitor here; and being called on such
an occasion, it might, in my own country where I am a Magistrate, have
the appearance of forwardness if I was to swear. I am a man of honour
and a gentleman, and my word ought to be taken. I do believe, and I have
no doubt, that he is the same man; but I decline to swear it; I’ll take
no oath.
The Magistrates expostulated, but unsuccessfully, on the absurd idea of
saying, “I have no manner of doubt, and verily believe,” and refusing to
swear, “I have no manner of doubt!” &c.
As I had previously drawn up an information for Mr Duncan and myself to
that effect, he was asked if he would sign it without swearing?--when Mr
Duncan said he would.
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