Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.Zulueta, Pedro de
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Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.
Zulueta, Pedro de
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5431. You think it would be just to make the first purchaser of the
vessel responsible for the subsequent employment of that vessel, after
he had sold her to Messrs. Zulueta & Co.?--Yes, as long as it remained
in the hands of Zulueta & Co.; and I would mention further, that an
advantage which I did not perceive before would result from it, that the
man who sells the vessel in the case supposed to Zulueta, would not be
very happy under such a sale, unless he got a security from Zulueta for
the amount of the bond, and in such a case, whenever doubtful characters
came forward as purchasers, the amount of the bond would be an addition
to the price paid for the vessel.
5432. When a prize vessel is brought into the public market in London,
why should this vessel be subject to regulations different from any
other vessel in the London market?--Because the vessel being purchased
at Sierra Leone, at one of our sales, would be likely to be a vessel
fitted for the slave trade, and for nothing else.
5433. But is it not well known that there are many vessels in the London
market equally well adapted for that purpose as many of those
vessels?--I think not.
5434. Sir _T. D. Acland_.] Do you not think that if a bond were given
under penalty of forfeiture, if in the course of a certain time, say
one, two, or three years, that vessel were detected as being engaged in
the slave trade, the party giving the bond would take very good care to
keep her out of that mischief?--Yes, I think he would.
5435. Would he not take very good care that the vessel should not get
into hands through which that risk could be brought upon himself?--He
would be interested in doing so.
5436. _Chairman._] Other parties would secure themselves upon each
successive transfer by successive bonds to the amount of their own
liability?--The amount of the bond might be more than the value of the
vessel considerably.
5437. Mr. _Forster_.] Then the result of that would be that there must
be a series of bonds running through all the subsequent sales of the
vessel?--Yes.
5438. Mr. _W. Patten_.] You have stated that in your opinion the
breaking up of all the vessels would be far preferable?--Yes, the
breaking up of all the vessels would be one of the best things that
could possibly be done.
5439. _Chairman._] What proportion of the vessels that have been taken
within your knowledge have been so broken up?--It is only since the
Spanish treaty came into operation in 1836 that they have been broken up
at all; since that time more than two-thirds of the vessels condemned
have been broken up.
5440. Sir _T. D. Acland_.] Would it be possible to fix the bond upon the
vessel itself?--No; I do not think it would.
5441. _Chairman._] You have seen a good deal of the effects of British
trade upon the coast of Africa, especially as connected with Sierra
Leone?--I cannot say that I have seen very much, but I have seen
something.
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