Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.Zulueta, Pedro de
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Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.
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5452. Then, on the whole, you would gain nothing in the way of
interruption to the slave trade, and you would lose many advantages for
the obstruction of the slave trade which you now possess by the free
access of English vessels even to the suspected ports?--That is my
opinion.
5453. Sir _T. D. Acland_.] May not the carrying on of legitimate
commerce, even with slave-dealing natives, be used as a means of
inducing them by negotiation to give up dealing in slaves?--It may be
so, certainly.
5454. _Mr. Forster_.] How did this merchant at Sierra Leone come to be
regarded with suspicion and mistrust who traded to the Gallinas, if, in
your opinion, such trade is beneficial for the civilization of Africa,
and the suppression of the slave trade?--I have not stated that exactly;
I would not impose any restrictions by law on the entrance of any
vessel, whether for lawful or unlawful purposes; but such freedom does
not release the merchant who sells his goods, knowing that they will be
employed for the slave trade, from the responsibility of doing so.
5455. You would prevent merchants and vessels frequenting such places as
the Gallinas, if it was to be inferred that they could not go there and
dispose of their goods without being subject to the charge of being
aiders and abettors in the slave trade?--I think that it is very
desirable that some regulations should be drawn up for the guidance of
the men-of-war on the coast, with regard to vessels engaged in traffic;
there appears to be a sort of impression now, that it is their duty to
interfere with all vessels trading with slave-trading ports, and it is
quite a misunderstanding on their part.
5456. Mr. _Aldam_.] If there is an establishment formed, where both the
lawful and the unlawful traffic is carried on in goods, do you think it
is desirable to prevent English vessels from trading to that
establishment?--I think it is undesirable.
5457. _Chairman._] It is suggested in Dr. Madden’s Report, that there
should be some further acts of treaty, with a view of developing the
resources of the colony?--I quite agree with Dr. Madden in that. In the
year 1836 I was before a Committee of the House of Commons, when my
evidence went particularly to that point. I thought that the policy of
the British Government in rejecting territory, when they had legally and
properly acquired it, and confining themselves entirely to the peninsula
of Sierra Leone, was very injurious.
5458. The peninsula of Sierra Leone does not afford adequate employment
and resources?--I think the employment and resources are sufficient for
the population at present, but the land is not so fertile as the land
that we then possessed, and which the Government at home required the
Government there to give up, and restore to the natives; also the
destruction of our sovereignty and property in that country will not
allow us to take cognizance of slave-dealing transactions occurring in
that territory.
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