10407. Mr. _Wood_.] Have you reason to suppose that the whole of that large commerce is subservient to the carrying on of the slave trade by the house of Blanco & Martinez at the Havannah?--I do not know; I know that they have large transactions in general business. I know that a short time ago I got 40,000_l._ or 50,000_l._ of Spanish bonds in the market for Martinez. I know that he is a large speculator in Spanish bonds and in securities of state. 10408. Is that speculating in Spanish bonds on account of the house at Cadiz, or the house at Havannah?--Speaking technically, I should say it was on account of the Cadiz house. 10409. The question related to the commerce of the Havannah house?--Pedro Martinez is a Havannah merchant. But with regard to Havannah merchants, we have received large consignments of sugar, cochineal, and sometimes Mexican goods, brought to Havannah and shipped to us here. 10410. In what course of business have the proceeds of those consignments been disposed of; have they gone in sending supplies to the coast of Africa?--Out of that large amount of money 22,000_l._ is the amount of all the goods that we have sent to the coast of Africa in 20 years. 10411. Of all descriptions?--Of all sorts and kinds; I have gone through the invoice-book and found them out. 10412. Have the proceeds generally been disposed of by drafts from the parties themselves to your house?--By the parties at Havannah, when the exchange turns to their advantage. 10413. Have you reason to suppose that a large portion of the trade that they carry on at the Havannah is the slave trade?--I had no reason to know any thing of the kind; I have known more of their transactions with the slave trade since these things have been mooted than I ever knew before; I have had more knowledge of these things lately than I ever had in my life before; and when I say “I,” I beg to state that I ought to state “we,” for all my partners are in the same situation. 10414. Have you been employed by the house at the Havannah to ship manufactured goods from this country to Havannah, suitable for the African trade?--We have sometimes shipped goods to the Havannah of the same kind as those that were in the “Augusta;” cotton goods and other things of that sort. 10415. Has that been recently?--In the course of our operations. 10416. How many years ago?--In the course of these 15 or 20 years that we have been engaged in business with them; all that I could see in a moment by my books. 10417. Have you sent any goods of that description to the Havannah recently?--Not very recently; I think not for some years. 10418. Have you sent any goods of that description since you first began to send goods out direct to the coast of Africa?--They have been mixed; I cannot draw a distinction between the two destinations; some have gone to the Havannah, some to the Gallinas.