5063. But in the case of a Portuguese merchant resident in a Portuguese possession, and carrying on his business there?--We should have looked at the course of trade in which the vessel was engaged, and the Portuguese having no colonies would not require slaves. 5064. Mr. _Forster_.] Do you consider the Spanish and Portuguese settlements to the south of the Line the places at which the slave trade will be last overcome?--The part of the coast at which the slave trade is carried on depends entirely on the cruizers; you may knock up the slave trade on any part of the coast you please, if the cruizing is properly conducted. The largest slave trade on the coast was the slave trade at the Gallinas; by the system of blockade that Captain Denman adopted there, he completely destroyed it. 5065. That blockade must be continued to make it permanent in its results?--Yes; and he never went away for water or provisions, without leaving a vessel to supply his place. He could always regulate the time that he should remain, knowing of course, to a day, how long his water and provisions would last him. 5066. But to render that remedy effectual and permanent, vessels of war must continue at the Gallinas?--Yes; but if you blockade the rivers, where the slave trade has been carried on for a number of years, and completely shut up the slave trade for a year or two, you destroy the system of slave trade in that part. 5067. _Chairman._] You think the machinery cannot be re-established in that part?--It may be re-established, but in the meantime there is no mart for the slaves; they are brought down and lodged in the barracoons, and the feeding of the slaves completely ruins the slave owner. 5068. Mr. _Forster_.] What is there to prevent the system being resumed there unless you continue the blockade of the place?--There is nothing. 5069. Then it is upon the blockade of the settlements that the success of the cruizers depends, and not upon the destruction of the barracoons?--Exactly; by blockade, I do not mean shutting out legitimate trade, but preventing any vessel fitted for the slave trade going in, and preventing any vessel with slaves coming out. 5070. _Chairman._] Do you believe that if you blockade a port, materially interfering with the slave trade for a considerable period, you obstruct it even for some time afterwards?--I think you do; and I think the people are so accustomed to the goods which they procure from slave dealers that they will get them if they can by other means. 5071. Then you think, that if you can blockade for a certain time, and put an end to the power of procuring what the natives desire by the slave trade, that their taste will have to be gratified by lawful traffic, and that that will make it less necessary for them afterwards to have recourse to the slave trade?--Certainly.