Mrs. OSWALD. No, in that city they have good apartments because the houses are new. That is, on a Russian scale, of course. You cannot compare it to private houses people live in here. Mr. RANKIN. Did he have an automobile? Mrs. OSWALD. Oh, no. In Russia this is a problem. In Russia it is difficult to have an automobile. Mr. RANKIN. Did he have a television set? Mrs. OSWALD. No. Only a radio receiver, a record player. Mr. RANKIN. Did you have a telephone? Mrs. OSWALD. No--I don't like television. Mr. RANKIN. Why? Mrs. OSWALD. The programs are not always interesting, and you can get into a stupor just watching television. It is better to go to the movies. Mr. RANKIN. What was his occupation at this time? Mrs. OSWALD. He worked in a radio plant in Minsk. Mr. RANKIN. Do you know what his work was? Mrs. OSWALD. As an ordinary laborer--metal worker. From that point of view, he was nothing special. I had a greater choice in the sense that many of my friends were engineers and doctors. But that is not the main thing. Mr. RANKIN. Did others with a similar job have similar apartments? Mrs. OSWALD. The house in which we lived belonged to the factory in which Lee worked. But, of course, no one had a separate apartment for only two persons. I think that Lee had been given better living conditions, better than others, because he was an American. If Lee had been Russian, and we would have had two children, we could not have obtained a larger apartment. But since he was an American, we would have obtained the larger one. It seems to me that in Russia they treat foreigners better than they should. It would be better if they treated Russians better. Not all foreigners are better than the Russians. Mr. RANKIN. Did he say whether he liked this job? Mrs. OSWALD. No, he didn't like it. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say about it? Mrs. OSWALD. First of all, he was being ordered around by someone. He didn't like that. Mr. RANKIN. Anything else? Mrs. OSWALD. And the fact that it was comparatively dirty work. Mr. RANKIN. Did he say anything about the Russian system, whether he liked it or not? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. He didn't like it. Not everything, but some things. Mr. RANKIN. Did he say anything about Communists and whether he liked that? Mrs. OSWALD. He didn't like Russian Communists. He said that they joined the party not because of the ideas, but in order to obtain better living conditions and to get the benefit of them. Mr. RANKIN. Did it appear to you that he had become disenchanted with the Soviet system? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, he had expected much more when he first arrived. Mr. RANKIN. Did he ever tell you why he came to Russia?