And so there may have been reasons that the children fought. And I also know that many, many couples fight, of our finest people, because I made it clear before that I have worked in these very fine homes, and have seen very fine people fight. I have seen a gentleman strike his wife in front of me. We know this happens. It is not a nice thing to do. But it happens in our finest homes. I am not condoning the act. But I am telling you that there probably was reasons, we will say. The woman has a black eye, and he is a louse--he gave her a black eye, but we must consider why did he give her a black eye. We always must consider the second aspect of the case. Mr. RANKIN. Did she take the baby with her when you looked---- Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir, she took--always the baby was with her. Mr. RANKIN. Did you ask Marina how she got the black eye or anything about it? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, in the bedroom. I was shocked. "Mama--Lee." Just like that. So I went in the living room and I said, "Lee, what do you mean by striking Marina?" He said, "Mother, that is our affair." And so that ended. I wasn't going to interfere any further. Now, this has been publicly stated by the Russian friends, that he beat his wife. I don't know if he did beat his wife. I happened to see the black eye. I know that he hit her and gave her a black eye. Marina said so, and my son has said so. But how many times does this happen, I don't know. But I am trying to point out that I don't approve of it. But I am trying to point out that everything is not according to Hoyle, as we say in our American way of life. Mr. RANKIN. Is there any other time that you recall that you saw that she had bruises or a black eye? Mrs. OSWALD. No, sir; that is the only time. And then the children moved to Dallas. Now, this will end that part of the story. I have accepted and I have the public papers, in 1959, when Lee went to Russia--I made a statement that as an individual I thought he had a right to make up his own mind in the decision to do what he wanted. I am of that nature, because, gentlemen, today or tomorrow I may decide to go to Russia, I will go. We are taught that in America, that we have the right to do what we want as an individual. So I publicly stated in 1959 that Lee had a right, if he wanted to live in that country. And I think it was courage that he did so, instead of staying in America and talking about America, and living here and downing his country. It took courage to go and live where he wanted to live. I was criticized highly for making that statement. And it is published in 1959--as far back as that. So I will get back now to when the children left. They did not tell me they had left. So I accepted the fact that my son Lee did not want me to know that he was in Dallas. Why I accepted the fact is because of Lee's so-called defection.